COVID (Updated potential "cure" on trial in Auatralia)
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@srx said:
not so dangerous this time
- It is at least one order of magnitude more deadly than the flu, maybe two (10x to 100x).
- It's also 2 to 3 times more contagious than the flu.
- Many people still say/believe that it is "not so dangerous", and therefor do not take measures seriously.
These three factors make it quite dangerous indeed!
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I suggested this theory to my neighbour as a joke-that it is Mother Natureβs cull of Boomers so Millennials, GenXers can inherit the $ Β£ β¬, houses and jobs. She did laugh - though nervously.
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
@srx said:
not so dangerous this time
- It is at least one order of magnitude more deadly than the flu, maybe two (10x to 100x).
- It's also 2 to 3 times more contagious than the flu.
- Many people still say/believe that it is "not so dangerous", and therefor do not take measures seriously.
These three factors make it quite dangerous indeed!
I know it is not so dangerous so we have to stop the World go round, so we could call it a reason for economic crisis (as if it was not already there, much more dangerous illness of today society). But that doesn't mean I do not take reasonable measures...
"Our minds are drawn to threatening headlines with big, scary numbers. At the time of publication, there were a total of 80,000 known cases of covid-19 viruses in 40 countries. In other words, only 0.0001 percent of the world's population. By comparison, during the seasonal flu epidemic, three to five million people worldwide (0.06% of the population) contract the disease seriously enough to see a doctor, and many more cases remain under the radar. The seasonal flu takes 290-650 thousand lives every year - up to 0.008% of the population."
Not a word about it in the news. But the CORONA case is like an inflated balloon, which reminds me of the other balloon that was about to explode. And it will. And that is the real problem. Last time it was solved with two World Wars.
This whole thing reminds me of one big Reality TV show (bigger then Truman show), we all enjoy to be a part of.
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Only 0.0055% people in Chine was infected. For middle age people death rate was 0.4%.
That means 0.0055%*0.4%=0.0022%. That means 99.9978% was a chance to survive if you were 40-50 years old. Not so dangerous.I am sure that the probability to die is 100%. 151,600 people die each day. Two every second. Imagine the global media filled with all that information - who died, why, in what age, who he left behind. Nothing is more important than that.
50% more money is being printed "because of Corona". That means your payment of 100$ now have value of 67$. So what?! We're all going to die anyway.
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@srx said:
Only 0.0055% people in Chine was infected. For middle age people death rate was 0.4%.
That means 0.0055%*0.4%=0.0022%. That means 99.9978% was a chance to survive if you were 40-50 years old. Not so dangerous.I am sure that the probability to die is 100%. 151,600 people die each day. Two every second. Imagine the global media filled with all that information - who died, why, in what age, who he left behind. Nothing is more important than that.
50% more money is being printed "because of Corona". That means your payment of 100$ now have value of 67$. So what?! We're all going to die anyway.
since you like figures so much check out these figures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4no04822NQ
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Mortality monitoring in Europe
http://euromomo.eu/ -
If we are sensible and use social distancing we can get through this, throwing figures of mortality and pointing out we are all going to die at some point is not exactly helpful. After all we do not do a lot of dangerous and high risk stuff because we basically want to live for a bit longer. It is the human condition. I wish you all well but am confident that the methods put out by the governments will help in the end, we just have to do our bit to look after ourselves and keep pressure OFF the medics. We may need them at some stage so lets keep THEM safe too.
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@l i am said:
since you like figures so much check out these figures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4no04822NQ
Where is the flue here?
"...the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."I don't think that Corona will kill more...
But as I said, it has great campaign.
Far more dangerous will be what comes after the Corona.What is interesting is how death rate varies geographically...Why is that?
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There is a certain correlation to smoking rates etc, that and commuting with high density traffic levels. Other factors like high levels of female hormones in drinking water possibly.
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Ratio of population to medical assets and quality of medical services Especially when uptake of the disease overreaches the capacity to treat.
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The truth finds the way,but maybe too late
βIt is credible to estimate that there are 10 positive cases for every one officially reported.β If this were true, and as many as 640,000 people are infected in Italy, their actual mortality rate would in a stroke become one percent instead of ten percent. The scale of the problem begins to look quite different in that context.
Cause of death
Yet another reason for Italyβs inflated mortality rate is how deaths are being recorded there. Professor Walter Ricciardi, an adviser to the Italian minister of health, told the Telegraph on Monday that βthe way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.ββA thought experiment may elucidate this. Imagine that one thousand people, all over the age of 75, died in hospitals in northern Italy last week. All of them had tested positive for the coronavirus at some point during the past few weeks.
The vast majority of Covid-19 fatalities, 99 percent according to Italian research, have had a pre-morbidity, if not two or three. These are underlying health issues,like heart disease, cancer or various infections. Some might have been comatose, with life support machines and artificial breathing the only thing keeping them alive anyway."
"But the key point to take away from this is that the 10 percent mortality rate being reported from Italy is grossly misleading. It is being waved around by the mainstream media as a bit of old-fashioned sensationalism at best, and a calculated tool of propaganda at worst. A figure like 0.3 percent - barely higher than the common flu - simply does not have the same power in getting people to swallow unprecedented legislation that gives the state tremendous new powers in a host of new areas... all in the name of public health of course."
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I think this is much better source than Bill Gates (virus expert), and all the media. I strongly suggest to here this
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By Geoge Gao In January, he was part of a team that did the first isolation and sequencing of severe acute respiratory syndrome 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19.
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