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  • J Offline
    juju
    last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 19:48

    OK, so the release notes page hasn't been updated to show SUPro 2020 yet. 😞

    And there is a different download link for an offline installer, the link by DaveR above (which is the historical download link) seems to be for an online installer? The file names in the various links, referring to SUPro 2020, are different with SU warning that the offline installer file is much larger than the online installer. WUT?

    *** EDIT ***
    Offline installer (Windows) = 521MB
    Online installer (Windows) = 200MB

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      Glenn at home
      last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 19:48

      LOL, just renewed my M&S and when I log into my account at SketchUp.com it says that I only have the free version. Even click on the link in the receipt email after renewing it.

      OK, did the update/upgrade "Wizard". Got it going 😉

      SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

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        juju
        last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 19:54

        @dave r said:

        The online installer is smaller because it picks up your language option and installs the required files. The Offline installer includes all languages because it won't be able to get the language during install since you would presumably have no internet connection if you are installing offline.

        O I C . . .

        Strange that the language pack installer is 260% that of the single language (presumably English) version?

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          Dave R
          last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 20:52

          @juju said:

          OK, so the release notes page hasn't been updated to show SUPro 2020 yet. 😞

          Lots of stuff to update. Takes time. Release notes are now available.
          https://help.sketchup.com/en/current-release-notes

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            sfto1
            last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 21:03

            While it will take a bit to get used to tags, the other features in SU are worthy. I love the changes to hidden geometry. This feature will be very helpful!

            The automatic transparency when selecting objects is going to be very helpful as well.

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              Dave R
              last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 21:07

              Agreed. There's some really cool stuff with LayOut now, too.

              As for tags, it's only a semantics thing. The work flow is the same. Untagged replaces Layer 0. Leave Untagged as active at all times. Assign other tags to groups and components but leave geometry untagged. Easy stuff.

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              • K Offline
                ken
                last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 21:33

                Help

                I have had the classic license since it was available. However, I am lost on how to add the 2020 license. I still have some time on my last payment.

                Version 2020 starts out with 30-day trial is over. I click on add classic license. And the info they ask for where is that found?

                Help would be nice.

                Thanks in advance

                Ken.

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                  Dave R
                  last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 21:40

                  Ken, as in the past, you should get an e-mail in the next few days with your 2020 license information. It takes the system a little while to go through all of the current classic-licensed users and send out the license information. You could also go to https://www.sketchup.com/license/renew and plugin in your 2019 serial number and license. I'm not sure how long it takes to get that updated but I expect it won't take long. In any case, nothing to panic about. You've got a month to add the license.

                  By the way, I edited your post to remove the screen shot that showed your serial number.

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                    ken
                    last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:16

                    Thanks Dave.

                    About 4 weeks ago, I had a major problem. I was removing some plugins, and apparently I removed something that required me to re-install Sketchup 2019. I had the file, re-installed, but it didn't keep my plugins. Lost all my plugins, lost all the template for Sketchup and Layout.

                    Thanks Again.

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                      Dave R
                      last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:22

                      What extensions were you removing that would require reinstalling SketchUp? Due to the location of them, you should be able to uninstall extensions without affecting the Sketchup installation at all. Also due to the normal locations of the files, reinstalling the same version of SketchUp shouldn't result in the loss of already installed extensions or materials, styles, custom templates, etc.

                      Make sure that you install SketchUp correctly no matter which version. Right click on the installer and select Run as administrator. If you didn't do that, you should go back and find the downloaded installer and do it. Choose Repair if the option is presented.

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                      • K Offline
                        ken
                        last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 23:52

                        Like a fool, I didn't run the installer as an administrator. So when I opened up the program after the install it said my 30-day trial had expired and wouldn't let me go any further.

                        So I saw Dave post, I went back and ran the installer again, this time making sure I ran the installer as an administrator and used the selection repair. And now when I open the program, it says, open the program to start your 30-trial. And Sketchup opens. Now I get to see all the improvements.

                        Thanks Dave.

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                          Dave R
                          last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 23:59

                          Excellent!

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                            utiler
                            last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 04:24

                            Yippy....!!
                            Some very cool stuff particularly with the huge improvement with Outliner. I'm glad to see something that I have requested over the years has finally come to fruition!!

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                              rv1974
                              last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 06:34

                              Yet another worthless release. Half of release notes describe layers to tags renaming.
                              Crazy...

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                                Box
                                last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 07:36

                                What a pointless, negative, close minded attitude.

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                                  rv1974
                                  last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 07:41

                                  That's the whole point there's nothing to discuss

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                                    juju
                                    last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 11:25

                                    Who's had this for a bit of a test-drive? Specifically w.r.t. extensions managing/leveraging LAYERS (now TAGS). Do they still work as expected?

                                    Unfortunately I'm a little pushed for time do the trial and error myself right now.

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                                      numerobis
                                      last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 12:18

                                      "We now call them Tags! One of our three big new features for SU2020, besides the revolutionary option to hide objects (our new name for groups/components 😉 ) and transparent objects!!!"

                                      WTF?!? Is this for real? Every year i think that this can't get worse anymore and next time has at least to be a step up - just to see that i was wrong again...

                                      We'll see what all the alleged "performance" improvements are about. Since they aren't even mentioning improved viewport performance this time i think there won't be any.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      We’ve spent a lot of time in 2019 learning more about what you, the user, wish SketchUp did better. We’ve been eyeing your comments on the forum and discussing ideas during our training events to see what trips up your workflow. So, thanks for speaking up! You helped us discover how you’re using SketchUp and how we can improve your design process, resulting in workflow improvements galore! They’re so good you’d think we’d been sneaking into design firms or something 😄.

                                      😆 😆 😆

                                      Ok, maybe next year...

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                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 12:20

                                        @juju said:

                                        Who's had this for a bit of a test-drive? Specifically w.r.t. extensions managing/leveraging LAYERS (now TAGS). Do they still work as expected?

                                        Like I told you before. It's only a name change from Layers to Tags and instead of Layer 0, Untagged. Use them exactly the same way. Untagged is always active. All edges and faces are created as untagged and remain untagged. Give groups and components other tags like you used to give them layer assignments. Use the tags to control visibility while you are working or when creating scenes.

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                                          juju
                                          last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 12:37

                                          @dave r said:

                                          @juju said:

                                          Who's had this for a bit of a test-drive? Specifically w.r.t. extensions managing/leveraging LAYERS (now TAGS). Do they still work as expected?

                                          Like I told you before. It's only a name change from Layers to Tags and instead of Layer 0, Untagged. Use them exactly the same way. Untagged is always active. All edges and faces are created as untagged and remain untagged. Give groups and components other tags like you used to give them layer assignments. Use the tags to control visibility while you are working or when creating scenes.

                                          Erm, yes, I did take note of that and it did offer some comfort momentarily until the following occured to me. Working with a standard installation and using the TAGS (LAYERS previously) the change should be easy enough to adapt to if that is just that, a superficial name change. But surely extensions call to specific things within the program, if those references were changed then the extensions would no longer work. Unless the various functions (called by extensions) are listed internally alpha-numerically (or some kind of ID instead of a name related to the function which is now changed) instead of naming them, in that case the extensions should function as expected?

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