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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Now that I’ve got the roof connection functionality up and running it is time to turn my attention to the actual roof framing. This is where the real headaches begin.

      I think I will start with trying to figure out an efficient algorithm for the ridge boards.

      Most orthogonal roofs are fairly straight forward:

      Capture.JPG

      If a ridge meets another ridge then it will receive a miter cut to match with that other ridge.

      If the ridge terminates into two hip rafters then it will be a square cut.

      The question I have is what to do when the hip terminates into a flying hip and valley?

      Then of course there are the exceptions caused by half hips, dutch gables, gables and terminals but those can be accounted for.

      As I’ve previously stated it makes sense to first catolog each edge of the roof primitive and create a hash for easy lookups. The process of elimination should allow me to assemble the catalog relatively easily.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        The new connection tool allows you to do this sort of thing:

        truss_su592_800.jpg

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          Tutorial 17: Complex Roof Connections (19:05 min.)

          View model in tutorial here:

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          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            The Medeek Halloween Haunted House:

            truss_su593_800.jpg

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            Another test of the roof connection feature with chimney and turrets.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
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              First look at ridge boards with complex roofs:

              truss_su594_800.jpg

              Things get a little messy when a ridge terminates into more than two hips or flying hips (ie. octagon and hexogon roofs), I will need to add in additional logic to handle these types of situation.

              The potential asymmetry of the roof planes also creates some interesting possibilities, however I do think I've solved that topological problem.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
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                Version 2.6.1 - 11.07.2019

                • Added ridge boards for complex roofs.

                The next framing item is hip and valley rafters.

                truss_su595_800.jpg

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  First look at interior half hips:

                  truss_su597_800.jpg

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
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                    Version 2.6.2 - 11.17.2019

                    • Allowed the option for interior half hips within complex roofs.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su598_800.jpg

                    The logic for interior half hips proved to be rather complicated. This additional feature affected every aspect of the module so it took me about 7 days to make it happen. However, in the process I think I also made the module more robust and addressed some other minor issues. Eventually I will also need to enable interior dutch gables but right now I'm too exhausted mentally to attempt it. Currently only gables and half hips are able to pile up on each other as shown.

                    Also note that you can mix things up with interior gables and half hips. For instance you could have a half hip on gable on half hip or any other combination.

                    Now, let's see if I can make anymore head way on valleys, hips and rafters...

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
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                      Version 2.6.3 - 12.02.2019

                      • Fixed multiple bugs in the complex roof module as related to metric templates.

                      After a bit of a Thanksgiving break I'm back on the complex roof module. There is still a considerable amount of work to do with the framing of the roof, some of the details I am still sorting out, in particular a very efficient rafter framing algorithm. I'm hoping to wrap this all up in the next couple of weeks and then jump over to the new Medeek Floor extension which will replace the floor truss/I-Joist module of the Truss plugin.

                      The new floor extension will allow for complex floors with the ability to alter the outline of floor similar to the complex roof.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
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                        I always get a lot of questions about what features are available within the truss plugin.

                        Many of these questions can be answered with a quick search of the changelog:

                        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss Plugin Changelog

                        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss Plugin Changelog

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                        Just a reminder that the changelog lists every new feature, modification or correction to the plugin since its inception (Oct. 2015 - Present).

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
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                          First look at ridge caps for a complex roof:

                          truss_su605_800.jpg

                          There is still quite a bit of work to do on this feature/module, but at least I have a game plan in place now and I think I can make it happen.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
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                            Version 2.6.4 - 12.16.2019

                            • Exposed the roof soffit layer name in Layers tab of the global settings.
                            • Fixed multiple bugs in the gambrel attic truss module.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su606_800.jpg

                            If you are using gambrel attic trusses this is a critical update/fix. This addresses the following two bugs:

                            • Error when metal plates was turned off in the global settings.
                            • Non-initialization of the roof cladding material name.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
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                              Version 2.6.5 - 12.18.2019

                              • Enabled an "orthogonal mode" for the complex roof draw menu.
                              • Added the ability to delete points in the complex roof draw menu.

                              Clicking the "Ctrl" key will enforce orthogonal mode while using the draw tool. Currently the orthogonal mode will restrict the user to 45 deg. increments.

                              While selecting the points for a roof outline the user may accidentally select an incorrect point. By clicking the left arrow key the user can delete the previously selected point (or multiple points). I will probably also incorporate this same feature within the draw menus of the foundation and upcoming floor plugin.

                              Both of these improvements are a result of plugin usability discussions with Larry Belk.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
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                                As we begin a new decade the number of licensed users of the Truss plugin is currently at 1,200. The plugin is now just over 4 years old, it will be interesting to see what we can do with it and the other plugins of the mdkBIM suite in this coming year.

                                truss_su611_800.jpg

                                I am looking forward to completing the complex roof module as well as bringing the truss side of the house up to par with the rafter side within this module.

                                Beyond that, it is the new floor plugin and project plugin as well as completing some key items with the wall plugin.

                                Wishing everyone a happy and prosperous New Year.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
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                                  A study of intersecting roof planes and trusses:

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                                  I didn't spend any time trimming truss tails or worrying about the sheathing or cladding, I was mostly interested in the truss layout and roof planes.

                                  Note that I created the tertiary roof plane in order to then draw a solid (temp rafter) which I then used as the primary roof plane for the second valley set (45 degree).

                                  I've colored all of the temp geometry transparently so you can dissect the model a little easier.

                                  I'm not entirely sure if this is how a truss manufacturer would actually handle this type of situation, but this is my best guess.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • jujuJ Offline
                                    juju
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                                    I fired up a different truss type that I have not used before - attic truss. I work in metric (mm) but the attic truss is only imperial (ft / in). Roof pitch I work in is degrees, but am facing 1/12 ratio in imperial? Did I miss a setting somewhere?

                                    How many of the other trusses / subsections are not homogeneous to each other? Can all the section / subsections be brought onto par with each other?

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
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                                      There are still a few truss types that do not have all of the advanced options available to them. To the best of my knowledge only the attic truss still does not have a metric interface when using a metric template in SketchUp, I will work on this.

                                      To check which features have been added to each truss type, do a browser search here:

                                      Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss Plugin Changelog

                                      Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss Plugin Changelog

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                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
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                                        Version 2.6.6 - 01.29.2020

                                        • Fixed a bug in the (complex roofs) roof plane edit menu for the outlooker size parameter.
                                        • Fixed a bug involving truss assemblies and valley set assemblies that are created in the same SketchUp session.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
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                                          Version 2.6.7 - 02.09.2020

                                          • Fixed a bug in the text input method of the draw menu for complex rafter roofs.
                                          • Added a T1-11 built-in material into the material library.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                            medeek
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                                            Version 2.6.8 - 04.10.2020

                                            • Fixed a show_modal bug for macOS in the Timber Truss HTML menu dialog.

                                            With this latest release I've had to migrate to the .rbe encryption system so this version will no longer run on SketchUp 2015 or earlier.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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