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  • K Offline
    kdewinter
    last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 08:51

    It's clear they are behind schedule for releasing the update.

    SU2018 showed us the path; I wouldn't surprised if SU would be online only like https://www.vectary.com . In my modest believe SU needs to look + add functionalities like FORMIT (Autodesk) & VECTARY (see previous).

    Furthermore being so behind there release window, I would have send my pre-financed base an sorry-email + timeframe for the SU2019 RELEASE. #iamnotabank #su2019

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      sketch3d.de
      last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 11:29

      @kdewinter said:

      It's clear they are behind schedule for releasing the update.
      ...
      Furthermore being so behind there release window...

      there is no release window and no periodic schedule assured as well as not providing a desktop version never announced, full stop.

      it's done when it's done, as always.

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        juju
        last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 17:00

        @sketch3d.de said:

        there is no release window and no periodic schedule assured as well as not providing a desktop version never announced, full stop.

        it's done when it's done, as always.

        This may or may not be true. I was sure that there was mention made, when the version labeling changed to incorporate a year indicator instead of a version number, that there will be annual major version updates. But I'm getting older and don't really have the time to read up / check on this, it will come to nought anyway. So it is what it is, we have to wait until a release is made.

        However, the maintenance and support thing is wearing a little thin for long standing users, in my opinion anyway. There is very little support a user of say 3 years or more would need, but access to newer versions (both minor and major version releases) is what is sought by most.

        Most "support" or problem resolution is done online on forums such as this as well as on SketchUp's own, mostly by other users who freely give their time and knowledge / experience. For 3rd party extensions this is a no-brainer, none of SketchUp's business; however there is bona fide SketchUp / LayOut questions asked by users that are more often than not resolved / answered by other users. There are a number of users that frequently help fellow users, you're probably recalling a few names / handles right now, on any number of issues.

        I'm very grateful for these people as well as the programmers of the extensions (many free) tirelessly and relentlessly coding away on these extensions that helps to propel SketchUp and form an integral part of the SketchUp ecosystem for most.

        I'm not saying that SketchUp doesn't provide support, obviously they do and within fairly reasonable turnaround times, but I've quite often seen people having difficulty either getting feedback (for whatever reason) or even getting into touch with support. We've been rather spoiled, in recent years, with rapid response times. More and more people expect a rapid response to their queries (whether this is good / bad or right / wrong is a completely different discussion) but this just serves to compound the experience.

        Getting to the point, a predictable release date (within reason) without having to publicize it, is what we've grown to expect in recent years. Probably another thing we've been spoiled to.

        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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          Bradley
          last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 17:22

          Got on the sketchup website yesterday and talked with sales via online chat about upgrading/purchasing. I was informed that it was a good time to purchase before the price goes up in February...

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            juju
            last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 17:31

            @bradley said:

            Got on the sketchup website yesterday and talked with sales via online chat about upgrading/purchasing. I was informed that it was a good time to purchase before the price goes up in February...

            Was any mention made as to what the increase will be?

            Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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              Box
              last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 17:36

              I heard it was three bales of gold straw or your first born.

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                Bradley
                last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 19:10

                @juju said:

                @bradley said:

                Got on the sketchup website yesterday and talked with sales via online chat about upgrading/purchasing. I was informed that it was a good time to purchase before the price goes up in February...

                Was any mention made as to what the increase will be?

                They did not.

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                  numerobis
                  last edited by 21 Dec 2018, 20:38

                  @bradley said:

                  ...the price goes up in February...

                  😆

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                  • R Offline
                    rv1974
                    last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 18:42

                    Does it mean we'll get the next release in February?

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                      Pixero
                      last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 19:16

                      Does anyone know if you buy a renewal before February, ahead of when your maintenance ends, let’s say in April. Do you get the extra time added or loose it?

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                        juju
                        last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 19:56

                        @pixero said:

                        Does anyone know if you buy a renewal before February, ahead of when your maintenance ends, let’s say in April. Do you get the extra time added or loose it?

                        Good question. You could always give it a trial run (don't hit the pay button) on the SketchUp licensing upgrade side of things. I've only ever visited those links after getting the notification (as to maintenance validity period) they send you in advance. Whenever I've upgraded / renewed previously the extra time was merely added, but they probably have checks & stops in place to prevent renewal too far in advance.

                        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                          numerobis
                          last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 21:08

                          @pixero said:

                          Does anyone know if you buy a renewal before February, ahead of when your maintenance ends, let’s say in April. Do you get the extra time added or loose it?

                          "Tip: Renewing early does not shorten the end date of the program. For example, say you initially enroll in the program on December 1, 2015, which expires November 30, 2016. If you renewed ten months later, your enrollment extends to November 30, 2017."

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                          • davidmreinboldD Offline
                            davidmreinbold
                            last edited by 26 Dec 2018, 05:27

                            Is Sketchup dead?!?!
                            I have a feeling trimble has totally lost it's mojo. I am under the impression this once game changing software which has been supported and advanced by it's very users for decades is now being neglected... by its parents Trimble. Whilst Josh & Aaron and the basecamp seem to be keeping the software on life support, there seem very little new features or progression from the Trimble developers other than the format it is being sold in. With the killing of the 'Add location' feature by lack of resolution it could even be argued that we are in regression... feature wise. The new version is way overdue and as usual not a word from Trimble about what is upcoming. Maybe it is time for Trimble to find us some new parents who care for our software... it deserves to be developed by a crowd who puts more resources and enthusiasm into this project.

                            A loyal Sketchupper

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                              srx
                              last edited by 26 Dec 2018, 06:44

                              Open source Sketchup. Nice idea. Better core engine, modular, based on plugins, free and pay. Nothing to beat it. It is already close to that concept...except that someone is selling it.

                              www.saurus.rs

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                                Mike Amos
                                last edited by 26 Dec 2018, 07:43

                                Despite the early promise, I believe Trimble have a lack of direction for the program with the predicted integration into the Trimble software group not happening as far as I can see. While open source has its attraction, Trimble are a hard nosed, profit driven company and it is this that I see as the hurdle and bar for development.

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                                  Glenn at home
                                  last edited by 26 Dec 2018, 13:54

                                  @mike amos said:

                                  Despite the early promise, I believe Trimble have a lack of direction for the program with the predicted integration into the Trimble software group not happening as far as I can see. While open source has its attraction, Trimble are a hard nosed, profit driven company and it is this that I see as the hurdle and bar for development.

                                  Agreed! Trimble was around long before SU and this is NOT their money maker by any means. SU sales are probably a drop in the larger Trimble bucket. IIRC we were lead to believe that SU would be the base for Trimble's new BIM solution, correct? Time will tell and we'll see what happens.

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                                  • Mistro11M Offline
                                    Mistro11
                                    last edited by 26 Dec 2018, 16:50

                                    I hope Sketchup gets a good update next release. I'm becoming very concerned about the futures of my 2 favorite CG packages. Sketchup and Thea Render. We get great software with a great community and active developers then the developers sell out to some company who is clearly profit driven and kill the very things that grow the user base like the free version of SU is no longer available in the form it was and it seems we can now kiss free updates to Thea good bye as the new company is adopting the same Trimble business model. Companies should really take a look at how 3DSmax hooks their user base giving away free versions to students who later swear by the product. Why suppress the free versions and updates that would only bring in a lot more users of which many will eventually buy a pro license like I did?

                                    But I accept what I have for now. I bought a pro license for version 14 and got v.15 during that same cycle. But ever since I been holding out on getting newer versions because I can basically do everything I need with what I have so far (except UV mapping) and the newer features just didn't grab my $100. The only reason I'm considering an update is so I can use the newer versions of Profile builder in a pro version but it's not that serious because i do have v17 free. So my attitude is, I still love and use Sketchup versions I have so far and even if we do not ever get another update, I will continue to use what I have as long as it works. I just hope this community continues to be active.

                                    i7-4930k @3.4/3.7GHz, 32Gb RAM, NVidia GTX 980Ti 6Gb, Windows 7 Pro 64bit
                                    Structural Integrity is Not Just Physical...It's in the Design and Purpose

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                                      Glenn at home
                                      last edited by 27 Dec 2018, 04:15

                                      @mistro11 said:

                                      ...Companies should really take a look at how 3DSmax hooks their user base giving away free versions to students who later swear by the product. ...

                                      Best way to do it imho

                                      SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

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                                        xtov
                                        last edited by 27 Dec 2018, 08:52

                                        Screen Shot 12-27-18 at 09.34 AM.PNG
                                        Some developers have informations....

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                                        • andybotA Offline
                                          andybot
                                          last edited by 27 Dec 2018, 14:30

                                          @davidmreinbold said:

                                          Is Sketchup dead?!?!

                                          Sketchup is dead, long live Sketchup! 😛

                                          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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