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    pilou
    last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 12:07

    Ok seems I must "Edit" Opening or Move Opening!

    But curious there is "horizontal" movement, not only vertically one! 😮
    Or Bugsplash!

    Frenchy Pilou
    Is beautiful that please without concept!
    My Little site :)

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      pbacot
      last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 16:22

      The extra inch is helpful when hanging sheet rock--two 4' high boards.

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        medeek
        last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 04:51

        The horizontal trim elements (frieze, band, skirt) are now interacting with the exterior window and door trim as one would expect:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su138_800.jpg

        When no trim is installed (wall to the right) the band board is cut at the opening(s) flush with the sheathing and cladding. When trim is installed the band board and skirt terminate at the edge of the window/door trim.

        Little details really, but the devil is in the details.

        Reminds me of the days working construction for a general contractor in Utah some 20 years ago. I was installing faux log siding on a high end residence and if our pieces butted up with a gap anymore than 1/32" he would make us pull it off and redo it (especially on the front of the house).

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          pilou
          last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:12

          Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            medeek
            last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:24

            @pilou said:

            Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

            Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:27

              Today was one of those days where I got seriously pulled sideways, so rather than jump back into the larger important items I put out a few small fires and some low hanging fruit, kind of needed a break anyways after working straight through the 4th.

              Flat two and four panel doors, single and double options:

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su139_800.jpg

              A slightly more contemporary look versus the more traditional six panel doors.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 08:39

                Version 0.8.4c - 07.07.2018

                • Horizontal trim elements terminate at window and door trim.
                • Added the following door types: flat four panel, flat two panel (single and double).

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  Charlie__V
                  last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 15:37

                  @medeek said:

                  @pilou said:

                  Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                  Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

                  And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)

                  Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 17:07

                    @charlie__v said:

                    @medeek said:

                    @pilou said:

                    Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                    Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

                    And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)

                    If you entered your serial number for the first time then yes a restart of SketchUp is required.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 17:29

                      Had a question on door hardware this morning.

                      I should point out that within the door install menu (and door edit menu) the user can pick between seven different styles of door hardware. Currently only Style1, Style2 and Style3 are active which means that the component (.skp) file exists in the components sub-folder.

                      If you want to add more hardware components, just name them (Style4, Style5, Style6 or Style7) and place them in the "components" sub-folder.

                      At some point I will probably move the door hardware into the "library" sub-folder and provide a better system for selecting and adding additional hardware within the global settings. The current system is limited and rather primitive.

                      Note that Style2 is a lever handle while Style1 is a typical doorknob. Style3 is a doorknob/deadbolt combo.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 18:39

                        Just for curiosity sake I gave crown molding some more thought this morning and it quickly became apparent to me that interior trim is far more complicated than I originally thought.

                        The problem arises when you have a long ext. or int. wall that is adjacent to multiple rooms, where multiple walls tee into this wall. Some of these rooms may have crown molding and some may not.

                        To make this completely parametric would require some very serious logic.

                        Another option would be to decouple the crown molding from the wall panels and just make a separate tool for this function.

                        Option C would be just to leave this venue to other plugins like Profile Builder. The problem with this option is that with baseboard and chair rail the door and window openings would have to be manually removed.

                        For now I don't have an optimal solution for interior trim, I will need to give this some more thought.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 05:37

                          Plugin utilization breakdown:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su140_800.jpg

                          Foundation Plugin: Not parametric, slab on grade foundation, less than a minute

                          Wall Plugin: Fully parametric, exterior walls only with some doors and windows, about a minute

                          Truss Plugin: Rafter roof not parametric and required manual editing to complete this roof framing, approximately 30-45 minutes of trimming members with the trim tool (Truss Plugin).

                          Based on this test the area I am falling down in most is the roof. I need to be able to automatically create complex roofs and also have them fully parametric, this has always been the holy grail of the Truss Plugin and I have not yet achieved it.

                          In my mind the Wall Plugin has already surpassed the Truss Plugin in ability and functionality.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 07:08

                            Cool assemby of 3 specialized plugins! ☀

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 17:23

                              I really like what I am able to do with the Wall Plugin now. Granted it does have a few missing elements but overall it can throw up some walls quickly and is full parametric. My issue is really with the Truss Plugin and its inability to handle full automation and parametric design.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 17:32

                                While the wall plugin has so many options to consider I can see how the complexity of truss design is difficult to cover in a plugin for all (or most) considerations. Nevertheless great work all around!

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 21:38

                                  I just noticed this morning that I don't have a vertical offset for doors, funny nobody else has noticed this yet:

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su142_800.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 9 Jul 2018, 07:21

                                    Version 0.8.4d - 07.05.2018 thru 07.09.2018

                                    • Added a vertical offset parameter for doors that allows a door to be positioned below the bottom plate of the wall.

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su144_800.jpg

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su145_800.jpg

                                    Door is vertically offset 12" into blockout in concrete stemwall.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 9 Jul 2018, 19:21

                                      To better reflect the distinction between a plugin and extension I will be re-branding the plugin and renaming it to just "Medeek Wall".

                                      From here on out I will also be referring to it as an extension.

                                      The entire collection of plugins will be re-branded as:

                                      Medeek Architect - A SketchUp Extension Library

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                                      Medeek Design Inc. - Resources

                                      Medeek Design Inc. - Resources

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                                      (design.medeek.com)

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 10 Jul 2018, 01:27

                                        There may be an issue with calling the collection of plugins Medeek Architect because of the reserved status of the word architect and architecture. I'm not even sure who to contact in regard to this matter to check on any legal difficulties, but I will do some more research tomorrow.

                                        Other ideas for names include:

                                        Medeek Construction
                                        Medeek Home
                                        Medeek Arch
                                        Medeek Designer
                                        Medeek SU
                                        Medeek Build

                                        I kind of like the ring of Medeek Architect, but I don't know if it will fly.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by 10 Jul 2018, 03:34

                                          There's "Chief Architect" --don't know if there's a licensed individual involved. Not the same as if you were trying to sell services as an architect but some people do get litigious and states do have widely encompassing protections on the word.

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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