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    Charlie__V
    last edited by 5 Jul 2018, 12:40

    Request:
    I know current window module is just for generic representation......but if possible.....could an option to specify number of units be implemented?

    Medeek Wall.....Draw Window........Picture.....Number of Units (4)
    I realize dividing a picture unit into 4 units negates the picture aspect....but just for demonstration purposes that is what I did. (& I edited unit text too)

    See image below


    number_windowunits.PNG

    Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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      medeek
      last edited by 5 Jul 2018, 20:09

      I will need to give the window module some more thought, it is very limited at the moment, only some very basic window types. Also the ability to customize the callout would be useful I think.

      Testing the wall presets with the new trim features. The example below shows the water table terminated at the corners, compare to the previous example.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su137_800.jpg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 5 Jul 2018, 22:00

        Version 0.8.4 - 07.05.2018

        • Added frieze and skirt board options to the exterior trim module.
        • Added an optional drip cap to the skirt board (dimensions can be set in the global settings).
        • Similar to the band board the skirt and frieze can cut through the corner trim.
        • Each wall panel now has a name assigned to it, which can be edited in the wall edit menu.
        • LVL beam depths now include 22" and 24" beam sizes. LVL edge texture has been updated.

        After much discussion and thought regarding my current marketing strategy for this plugin I've come to the following conclusions:

        1.) The amount of work required to make this plugin reach its full potential is significant. Each of the sub-modules is literally a plugin in and of itself (ie. Windows/Doors, Estimating, Engineering, Beams etc...) If I keep going this plugin will be much more than just a plugin, it will be piece of software that begins to rival other design packages like Chief Architect and perhaps even Revit.

        2.) Based on my previous experience with my other plugins the renewal rate on these plugins is quite low which is slowly pushing me towards some sort of subscription based licensing. However, I find this licensing model very distasteful so that prevents me from adopting this type of model at the present. Even if I where to go this route all of the existing customers would be grandfathered in with a permanent license.

        3.) Compared to other design software out there my pricing is very low. To some degree this is actually hurting sales since the price is too low for many design professionals. What I mean specifically is that they look at this price and they have a hard time taking it serious, "It must just be TOY at that price". At the same time the casual/DIY user probably finds the current price a bit too high for their liking. So I am currently in a sweet spot where the plugin will not be purchased by either market.

        4.) In order to keep pursuing this plugin (and others) with the amount of intensity and effort that I am currently expending I need to focus on the professional market.

        In approximately 10 days I will be raising the price of the plugin to bring it more in line with other professional plugins like ConDoc Tools and others. I haven't settled on the new price but it will be at least double what it is now. The LT version will also probably see a slight increase however I would like to try to keep it accessible to the casual user and DIYer market.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 06:39

          Version 0.8.4b - 07.05.2018

          • Fixed the door handing for in-swing doors.
          • Callout for in-swing doors moved to interior side of wall.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            pilou
            last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 10:37

            Seems Windows in Trial version are built by default at 0 Z altitude! (+ 0.04m thickness of bottom frame)
            Does this normal ?
            Click Image for animation!
            GIF_wall00.gif

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              Charlie__V
              last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 11:13

              @pilou said:

              Seems Windows in Trial version are built by default at 0 Z altitude! (+ 0.04m thickness of bottom frame)
              Does this normal ?

              YES:
              In USA 97.125" wall ht. is a typical wall ht. using pre-cut wall studs. (pre-cut stud 92.625" + plates 1.5" + 1.5" + 1.5" = 97.125")
              I have heard a number of reasons over the years, but mainly it is to get a finished ceiling ht. of ~ ± 96" or 8'-0" after install of drywall(or plaster) & flooring.

              C

              EDIT:
              Re-reading your post Pilou.....thought you were asking about over all wall ht.
              Now wondering if you mean the window rough opening header ht?

              Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                pilou
                last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 11:56

                I want just draw my window on maybe something like 0.90 m or more from bottom! 😄

                somewhere_here.jpg

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 12:07

                  Ok seems I must "Edit" Opening or Move Opening!

                  But curious there is "horizontal" movement, not only vertically one! 😮
                  Or Bugsplash!

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                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                    pbacot
                    last edited by 6 Jul 2018, 16:22

                    The extra inch is helpful when hanging sheet rock--two 4' high boards.

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 04:51

                      The horizontal trim elements (frieze, band, skirt) are now interacting with the exterior window and door trim as one would expect:

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su138_800.jpg

                      When no trim is installed (wall to the right) the band board is cut at the opening(s) flush with the sheathing and cladding. When trim is installed the band board and skirt terminate at the edge of the window/door trim.

                      Little details really, but the devil is in the details.

                      Reminds me of the days working construction for a general contractor in Utah some 20 years ago. I was installing faux log siding on a high end residence and if our pieces butted up with a gap anymore than 1/32" he would make us pull it off and redo it (especially on the front of the house).

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:12

                        Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:24

                          @pilou said:

                          Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                          Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 07:27

                            Today was one of those days where I got seriously pulled sideways, so rather than jump back into the larger important items I put out a few small fires and some low hanging fruit, kind of needed a break anyways after working straight through the 4th.

                            Flat two and four panel doors, single and double options:

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su139_800.jpg

                            A slightly more contemporary look versus the more traditional six panel doors.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 08:39

                              Version 0.8.4c - 07.07.2018

                              • Horizontal trim elements terminate at window and door trim.
                              • Added the following door types: flat four panel, flat two panel (single and double).

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                Charlie__V
                                last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 15:37

                                @medeek said:

                                @pilou said:

                                Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                                Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

                                And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)

                                Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 17:07

                                  @charlie__v said:

                                  @medeek said:

                                  @pilou said:

                                  Between versions must do uninstall the previous or install just the new over the previous ?

                                  Please uninstall first, I think this is the safe bet, I've seen issues with installing over top of previous versions.

                                  And re-start Sketchup after installing extension. (Seems necessary......perhaps no?)

                                  If you entered your serial number for the first time then yes a restart of SketchUp is required.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 17:29

                                    Had a question on door hardware this morning.

                                    I should point out that within the door install menu (and door edit menu) the user can pick between seven different styles of door hardware. Currently only Style1, Style2 and Style3 are active which means that the component (.skp) file exists in the components sub-folder.

                                    If you want to add more hardware components, just name them (Style4, Style5, Style6 or Style7) and place them in the "components" sub-folder.

                                    At some point I will probably move the door hardware into the "library" sub-folder and provide a better system for selecting and adding additional hardware within the global settings. The current system is limited and rather primitive.

                                    Note that Style2 is a lever handle while Style1 is a typical doorknob. Style3 is a doorknob/deadbolt combo.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 7 Jul 2018, 18:39

                                      Just for curiosity sake I gave crown molding some more thought this morning and it quickly became apparent to me that interior trim is far more complicated than I originally thought.

                                      The problem arises when you have a long ext. or int. wall that is adjacent to multiple rooms, where multiple walls tee into this wall. Some of these rooms may have crown molding and some may not.

                                      To make this completely parametric would require some very serious logic.

                                      Another option would be to decouple the crown molding from the wall panels and just make a separate tool for this function.

                                      Option C would be just to leave this venue to other plugins like Profile Builder. The problem with this option is that with baseboard and chair rail the door and window openings would have to be manually removed.

                                      For now I don't have an optimal solution for interior trim, I will need to give this some more thought.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 05:37

                                        Plugin utilization breakdown:

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su140_800.jpg

                                        Foundation Plugin: Not parametric, slab on grade foundation, less than a minute

                                        Wall Plugin: Fully parametric, exterior walls only with some doors and windows, about a minute

                                        Truss Plugin: Rafter roof not parametric and required manual editing to complete this roof framing, approximately 30-45 minutes of trimming members with the trim tool (Truss Plugin).

                                        Based on this test the area I am falling down in most is the roof. I need to be able to automatically create complex roofs and also have them fully parametric, this has always been the holy grail of the Truss Plugin and I have not yet achieved it.

                                        In my mind the Wall Plugin has already surpassed the Truss Plugin in ability and functionality.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 8 Jul 2018, 07:08

                                          Cool assemby of 3 specialized plugins! ☀

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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