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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
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      @joe wood said:

      yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

      in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

      No, I mean to use the LayOut dwg export. Actually I don't know. I use it in some limited fashion in Imperial. I get weird results tryin it in cm. If you need dwg files, I guess SU isn't the way.

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      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
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        I'd rather find out what my dwg export issue is fellas.

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

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        • Dave RD Offline
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          @joe wood said:

          I'd rather find out what my dwg export issue is fellas.

          From what I've read in this thread, you've been told what you export issue is.

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          • Joe WoodJ Offline
            Joe Wood
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            I must have missed it Dave, does this dwg resolve it? All the measurements read correct for me?


            France 2.dwg

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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            • Joe WoodJ Offline
              Joe Wood
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              If the solution is using Layout, can someone point me to a Tut showing how to set it up for drawings like these? I tried last night but only got as far as the initial paper sizes, and none seemed to fit my drawing?

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
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                @joe wood said:

                I must have missed it Dave, does this dwg resolve it? All the measurements read correct for me?

                To me that comes out of scale. Off by some factor less than 3. I guess it's what TIG said. Scale by 2.54.

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                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                  Joe Wood
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                  How do I scale the whole model, so I can export this dwg correctly?

                  I asked if he could scale on his end, and he said-
                  "This scale (1/2,54) does not exist, it is a scale of your drawing relative to the filling to the size of your screen.... or else it is: 1/1;1/2;1/5;1/5;1/10;1/20;1/25;1/50;1/100;1/150 Etc.............

                  But that doesn't change anything! whatever the chosen scale the measurements do not change since they are taken on the drawing at 1/1 scale which is the dimension of creation of your drawing. The scale is only used for viewing or printing."

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
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                    You have to scale in the CAD version (not in terms of "drawing scale" but in terms of selecting everything and making it larger.)

                    I wish I understood what is happening.

                    Here's what. If I open in PowerCADD and just open it as feet and inches. It's OK if, after I make the file I THEN change the units to cm.

                    If I set the units as cm at import, the scale is off 2.54. then enlarging the drawing will give the correct scaling in cm.

                    Try this one that I resaved in cm.


                    France 2pb.DWG

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                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                      Joe Wood
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                      I wish I understood what is happening too, but you're really trying to figure it out Pb!

                      I'l send what you wrote to him, see if he can make it work but he's probably gone until next Tuesday. Thanks so far for your effort man!

                      Joe Wood
                      woodsshop.com/

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                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                        Joe Wood
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                        Folks I need to get this resolved, why aren't these dwg to scale in CM?

                        Is this the answer from PB?
                        'If I open in PowerCADD and just open it as feet and inches. It's OK if, after I make the file I THEN change the units to cm.

                        If I set the units as cm at import, the scale is off 2.54. then enlarging the drawing will give the correct scaling in cm.'

                        Joe Wood
                        woodsshop.com/

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                          Charlie__V
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                          @joe wood said:

                          Folks I need to get this resolved, why aren't these dwg to scale in CM?

                          Joe,
                          Your files straight out of Sketchup are to scale, but as TIG pointed out, when you export out of Sketchup at 2D you cannot export in Metric units. (SU native Imperial units remain intact)

                          @joe wood said:

                          Is this the answer from PB?
                          'If I open in PowerCADD and just open it as feet and inches. It's OK if, after I make the file I THEN change the units to cm.

                          If I set the units as cm at import, the scale is off 2.54. then enlarging the drawing will give the correct scaling in cm.'

                          Joe,
                          Yes, that sounds like exactly the right answer, but.....for PowerCadd....we simply cannot be certain it will behave the same in the CAD software your client is using.

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                          However, what we can determine from the image you provided is:

                          As TIG stated the SU native Imperial units will remain intact if .dwg is exported as 2D from SU and the text I added in the image above was an attempt to illustrate just that.
                          Note: your SU dimensions shown typically are no longer "active" when imported to other CAD software and are simply lines with the text sometimes preserved.

                          So, although you "see" the dimension 319.98 it is not actually representative of the imported .dwg dimension. And the math provided very closely proves this out.

                          So, in short, I would attempt to explain to your client that a conversion on his end from imperial to metric will be necessary.

                          The top dimension your client shows in the image 12597.7cm x 2.54 = 31998.158(mm) divide by 100 = 319.981 or round to 319.98cm

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                          • srxS Offline
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                            The magic command in AutoCAD LT -DWGUNITS will convert the drawing unit and scale your model appropriately, like the one I attached.


                            Rafter Details.dwg

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                            • Joe WoodJ Offline
                              Joe Wood
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                              I sent him the dwg we thought would work and he replied that it didn't ..

                              He uses
                              "Data Transporter", but it's probably adapted to my native format "3dxx".

                              does anyone use this program? Or, how do I find someone who does? I've been googling but can't find it on the web.

                              I just asked him-
                              Can you send me a link to a forum where people talk about about 'Data Transporter' Henri? Or a link to the software company?

                              hopefully I can run this issue past them!

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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                              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                Joe Wood
                                last edited by

                                he said-
                                Data Transporter is an export and import software dedicated to my software that allows me to import DWGs in 3DXX or export my 3DXX files in DWG.
                                You must have the equivalent with Sketchup...

                                I send or receive DWG files every day from my collaborators architects or engineers and I never have these problems. The solution is to be sought on your side.
                                Ask SKETchup... There's probably a very small thing you don't do that makes exporting impossible.

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                  Joe Wood
                                  last edited by

                                  OK he sent me the software link! http://iluac.com/

                                  could someone who kind of understands the issue, and speaks French, write me a summary in French so I can ask the software people?

                                  Joe Wood
                                  woodsshop.com/

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                                  • srxS Offline
                                    srx
                                    last edited by

                                    I could convert units for you in Acad LT. I am sure it will be all right for them. Have you tried with the file I've sent?

                                    www.saurus.rs

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                                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      No SRX I haven't, because the ones he says aren't to scale, are to scale when I measure them.

                                      I have about 7 dwgs I need to get to him. Thanks for the offer!

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                      • srxS Offline
                                        srx
                                        last edited by

                                        As you wish...but I think this solves the problem with DWG.

                                        www.saurus.rs

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                                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                          Joe Wood
                                          last edited by

                                          well, if you don't mind converting 7 files I'll take you up on your offer SRX 🙂

                                          I'd still like to figure this problem out ..

                                          Joe Wood
                                          woodsshop.com/

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