Sending To Layout
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OK this one measures correctly, but then the other one did too but gave my client the wrong dimensions. I appreciate you working with me on this PB, esp on Xmas weekend
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The last one definitely comes in to scale when I open the dwg. Except the top rafter is off slightly--and I remember it being exact on an earlier translation. I get 301.93. So it looks like you found the scaling process that works!
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@pbacot said:
The last one definitely comes in to scale when I open the dwg. Except the top rafter is off slightly--and I remember it being exact on an earlier translation. I get 301.93. So it looks like you found the scaling process that works!
I saw in Joe’s image above the SKP viewport in LO is set to 1” = 1’-0”(1:12)
Though on export the scale for Model space was set to 1/16” = 1’ (1:192)Perhaps this accounts for the remaining discrepancy?
Charlie
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Yeah I corrected that top rafter just a tiny bit, thanks again for hanging with me thru this!
I probably need to match the two scales up though?
'I saw in Joe’s image above the SKP viewport in LO is set to 1” = 1’-0”(1:12)
Though on export the scale for Model space was set to 1/16” = 1’ (1:192)'can someone tell me how to put the units at cm so I can add dimensions? I go to File > Document Setup and change it there but it doesn't stick?
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@joe wood said:
OK matched the two scale up
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but how to change the dimension units??
Joe,
It might be easier for all of us to help if you posted a simple file like in the image attached.(simple rectangle with imperial and metric dims)Once the exporting to scale of a single entity is sorted out, you should be able to follow the same procedure with the project you are working on now.
Merely a suggestion.
As to setting/changing the dimension units, I'm not sure you need to change the units for the file, just the settings in the "Tray". Just make sure you have the dimension tool selected to do so.
Charlie
![Dimension "setting" in LO](/uploads/imported_attachments/w4Fo_LO_Dimension_setting.PNG "Dimension "setting" in LO")
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OK found the dimensions in the tray, but when I changed it to cm, all the dimensions are wrong? The SUp model was set to the same cm scale.
here's the skp file!
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@joe wood said:
OK found the dimensions in the tray, but when I changed it to cm, all the dimensions are wrong? The SUp model was set to the same cm scale.
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here's the skp file!
Joe,
I get 301.93cm for the over all rafter length in both Sketchup Model and Layout file.
please see attached. [attachment=1:3e349nvu]<!-- ia1 -->France 2b_LO_V15.layout<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:3e349nvu]PS....in my above simple example the SU model units are in fractional inches and LO model viewport scale @ 1" = 1'-0" [1:12]........I used LO dimensions to illustrate you could leave your native model set to imperial, yet still document & dimension an imperial model to metric (cm/other) in LO. (Rt. click LO viewport..open w/Sketchup to view SU model)
[attachment=0:3e349nvu]<!-- ia0 -->Scale_Test_SUImperial_to_LOMetric_V15.layout<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3e349nvu]Charlie
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I'm not completely getting all of this but seems like I'm close
but why are these dimensions off?
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@joe wood said:
I'm not completely getting all of this but seems like I'm close
but why are these dimensions off?
Joe,
Maybe I am not following still?In the attached model I have set the LO file to imperial and set all viewports to 1"=1'-0" (1:12)(regardless of SU model units)
So, your original SU model in LO appears fist.I extracted one rafter and dimensioned it in SU after setting model units in SU to Metric.
I then saved this same model and changed the SU model units to Imperial.
Inserted both of these models below your original model in LO
You can now see a representation of both Metric and Imperial (both dimensioned in SU) within the attached LO file. 1 rafters_Imp_Metric_LOFile_Units_Imp_V15.layout
Note: always make sure "preserve scale on resize" box is ticked in the SU model palate.
Hope this all makes sense.
Charlie
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I dimensioned this before sending to layout, it measures accurately with PCon but then another I did also measured correctly, but not to my client.
how does this one look and measure?
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The next Scene I'm trying is much larger and the 1" = 1' scale doesn't work at all.
this is the scene
how do I figure out which scale to use? None seem to fit the viewport.
1/4 = 1" was the only one that fit it to inside the viewport but the scale was way off ..
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@joe wood said:
The next Scene I'm trying is much larger and the 1" = 1' scale doesn't work at all.
how do I figure out which scale to use? None seem to fit the viewport.
Joe,
Assuming this is all still in the context of the Metric (French client) I would set the LO page size to Metric, all the LO SU viewport scaling to Metric, and of course LO dimensions in Metric.(you should not have to worry about the Sketchup model being metric, unless you will show dimensioning "in" the SU model in the LO viewport)
You will have to increase the paper size to accommodate lager parts of your model.(and larger viewports based on scale(s) selected)
In the attached file I have set the file units/page/dimensions/viewport scaling to metric.
(please see note in box bottom right corner of page)JoeWood_C3Paper_Metric_Cm_Scale_1_10_LO_V15.layoutHere is another page size "C2" with viewport scales of 1mm = 10mm(1:10) & 1mm = 20mm(1:20)
JoeWood_C2Paper_Metric_Cm_Scale_1_10_20_LO_V15.layoutCharlie
Note;
Most of my work is US/Architectural/Imperial and mostly ¼" scale and almost always page size of Arch D 24"x36"Maybe our friends in and around France can recommend "typical" sheet size and scaling for a project like your so you can potentially save yourself from having to resize/scale all of you pages.(if not "standard" in france)
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Thanks again Charlie, I'll try it again,
you know, I'm not trying to get a specific scale on paper, all I need is for my French client to be able to get accurate dimensions off of the dwg file.
so is this dwg I posted ealier, accurate now?
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@joe wood said:
Thanks again Charlie, I'll try it again,
you know, I'm not trying to get a specific scale on paper, all I need is for my French client to be able to get accurate dimensions off of the dwg file.
so is this dwg I posted ealier, accurate now?
In the cad software I am using it is, but you may want others to further verify.
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OK, let's hope that last one is correct! I used 1" = 1'.
My next Scene is covers more area then the last, with a page size of roughly 850 x 530 cm. I Temp drew in those dimensions here
how do I go about figuring the page size and scale for this one? Remember I just want an accurate dwg file to measure and not an accurate scale printed drawing.
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@joe wood said:
OK, let's hope that last one is correct! I used 1" = 1'.
My next Scene is covers more area then the last, with a page size of roughly 850 x 530 cm. I Temp drew in those dimensions here
[attachment=1:396j2cay]<!-- ia1 -->1 Next One.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:396j2cay]how do I go about figuring the page size and scale for this one? Remember I just want an accurate dwg file to measure and not an accurate scale printed drawing.
Joe,
I was trying to steer you into setting up a scaled set of documents for a number of reasons, but mainly as a way to for you to convey the information from your original drawings/model as you intended.Having a dimensioned .pdf file for the client and you to refer to for example helps you from having to answer for any(client)mistakes unintended or otherwise while manipulating the .dwg you have provided.
That said, It appears you want to still try to export to 1:1 and there is a limitation as to sheet size in LO 508cm x 508cm I believe (200"x200" Imperial...LO Version 2018...maybe same in LO V2015?)[attachment=0:396j2cay]<!-- ia0 -->JoeWood_Page_508cmx508cm_LO_V15.layout<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:396j2cay]
That limitation will not allow for 1:1 scale, so as I suggested earlier it would be best to pick a Metric scale and a sheet size you can live with....even though you are not interested in printing the pages.
Best regards,
Charlie
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I'm sorry Folks, especially Charlie, but I'm just not getting this. Al I want to do with about 6 diff scenes is export a dwg that's to correct scale for my client.
Been working all day on this and no closer.
I wish we could just figure out why I can't export correct scale dwgs right from SUp ..
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=68904&p=629858#p629858
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