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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Talking with some other users about the timber truss module I think it may be useful if the module could generate a separate detail with dimensions etc... for each plate.

      I don't know how to do this in layout so I will probably use SVG and html.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • jujuJ Offline
        juju
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        @medeek said:

        Talking with some other users about the timber truss module I think it may be useful if the module could generate a separate detail with dimensions etc... for each plate.

        I don't know how to do this in layout so I will probably use SVG and html.

        That is quite a niche use, probably a "pro version" or "engineering version" item?

        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          Progress is slow but steady:

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su260_800.jpg

          Now I just need to add the bolts to the peak and heal plates...

          Full on calcs would be nice too, but I'm just getting ambitious again.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • G Offline
            glro
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            @juju said:

            @medeek said:

            Talking with some other users about the timber truss module I think it may be useful if the module could generate a separate detail with dimensions etc... for each plate.

            I don't know how to do this in layout so I will probably use SVG and html.

            That is quite a niche use, probably a "pro version" or "engineering version" item?

            what is the niche use?

            is it the engineering version?
            or is it the hobby version?

            hobbyist don't make money with sketchup
            so hobbyist won't pay for the extension

            maybe the engineering version is the one that could bring to the developper the resources needed to developp the extension

            possible to create a scene for each plate and add dimensions directly in sketchup

            just ideas ...

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            • facerF Offline
              facer
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              Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 5 Aug
              https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/128644708/medeek-construction-plugin-library
              All or nothing. This project will only be funded if it reaches its goal by Tue, August 29 2017

              Meedeek Kickstarter - update 07 - 06 aug.JPG

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              • jujuJ Offline
                juju
                last edited by

                At glro: you're new to the extension, else you would know that there is no free version, except maybe the trial, so the developer would already be earning revenue. What I understand he wants to do is develop a module whereby a cut list and punch list is generated, which means the engineering end has to be up to scratch, which I don't doubt Nathan can do, but the building codes may differ (liability problems), and most user won't need to generate cut lists or punch lists, thus niche use.

                Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                • facerF Offline
                  facer
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                  8 Aug Update

                  Medeek Const Lib Kickstarter.JPG

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                  • facerF Offline
                    facer
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                    Medeek,
                    Please check your private messages, you have yet to respond to a PM proposal I posted.

                    Regards,
                    Ray

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                      facer
                      last edited by

                      Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 14 Aug

                      Meedeek Kickstarter - update 08 - 14aug.JPG

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
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                        Back from my trip to Utah. I had to take a day yesterday just to recuperate from my vacation, 5 kids can wear anyone out.

                        Facer will be implementing a new program to help drum up extra support for the campaign, only about 10 days left and we are only 50% there.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • jujuJ Offline
                          juju
                          last edited by

                          I'm willing to double my support, which isn't much but will help the cause.

                          I'm hoping this kickstarter takes off...

                          *** EDIT ***
                          So, apparently, once you've backed the kickstarter you can't do another pledge?

                          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                          • TandemT Offline
                            Tandem
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                            It would be interesting to hear from the current users of the Truss and Foundation plugins. Looking at the Kickstarter project it looks like only 4 Truss Plugin users are interested in the upgrade and none of the Foundation Plugin users are showing any interest. Although it is possible that some of the existing users are among the 23 backers that made the Basic or Advanced pledges. Still, only 30 backers?

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
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                              There are currently 371 active (unique) users of the truss plugin. Yet the turnout is very low with the Kickstarter Campaign, which leads me to one of two conclusions:

                              1.) Kickstarter does not work well with the SketchUp community.

                              OR

                              2.) The number of "active" users of the plugin is much smaller than the registered user base.

                              If #2 is the case then it leads one to believe that the real world utility of the plugin is limited at best. Admittedly the plugin is a bit of novelty, it can do some cool stuff but does the registered user actually employ it on a daily basis and does it add significant value. These are questions that I have been asking for some time but do not have a clear answer on.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
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                                I've posted the Html Timber Truss input page at the link below so anyone can start putting it through its paces and offer me some feedback.

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                                I still need to add in the algorithms for the bolts into the top chord and top of the king post, should be able to knock that out this evening.

                                I will probably need to add in some extra logic that deals with bolt placement at the heel joints especially when the scarf cut on the bottom chord extends below the centerline of the bottom chord.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • K Offline
                                  KrisM
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                                  My browser (Firefox) doesn't like the link.
                                  "Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (skp) isn’t associated with any program or is not allowed in this context."
                                  I associated skp with SketchUp but still doesn't work.
                                  ???

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
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                                    Try it now, there may be some other cross browser issues that I was not aware of. That is the reason for posting this link, it will help expose any issues.

                                    I use Chrome as my primary browser so I am fairly confident there will be no issue with that browser.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      I've got all of the bolts working now for each plate as well as the extra logic to make sure bolts don't get too close to the scarf line at the heel joint.

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                                      Please go ahead and test out the link I've given above.

                                      If there are no major fixes then I am ready to implement this module into the plugin.

                                      I still need to come up with the metric version but first I will implement the imperial version fully.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • K Offline
                                        KrisM
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                                        Nat,
                                        The link works fine now but there are some other issues.
                                        Leaving all the settings the same as the link presents - Changing span to 25', the right hand support disappears. Changing the span to 24'or less, the right most plate disappears. Generally speaking, I never see the bolts. Some detective work for you.
                                        KrisM

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                                        • facerF Offline
                                          facer
                                          last edited by

                                          Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 20 Aug

                                          All or nothing. This project will only be funded if it reaches its goal by Tue, August 29 2017

                                          Just a moment...

                                          favicon

                                          (www.kickstarter.com)

                                          Meedeek Kickstarter - update 09 - 20aug.JPG

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            @krism said:

                                            Nat,
                                            The link works fine now but there are some other issues.
                                            Leaving all the settings the same as the link presents - Changing span to 25', the right hand support disappears. Changing the span to 24'or less, the right most plate disappears. Generally speaking, I never see the bolts. Some detective work for you.
                                            KrisM

                                            Your right, not out of the woods yet on this one.

                                            The html preview is working fine in Google Chrome but completely blows up in Firefox and has some issues with the bolts in IE.

                                            It appears that SketchUp uses IE as the default browser for web dialogs (on Windows) so I've got to address the bolt issue first. I've loaded this up in Safari on my Ipad and it seems to be without any issues, maybe someone on a MAC can verify that.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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