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    medeek
    last edited by 22 Jul 2017, 22:42

    I've updated the user map so that it now shows all users at once without a time lapse effect:

    404 - File or directory not found.

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    and a new combined map with both the foundation and truss plugin:

    404 - File or directory not found.

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    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      facer
      last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 01:13

      %(#000000)[Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 22 Jul

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/128644708/medeek-construction-plugin-library ]


      Meedeek Kickstarter - update 05 - 22jul.JPG

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        medeek
        last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 03:46

        Language support is something I've been thinking about today. I am wondering if there is any need for this in the plugin(s). I was thinking about adding support for French, Spanish, German and Japanese. I'm also curious as to how others have accomplished this with their own plugins.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          kirill2008
          last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 06:11

          @medeek said:

          I'm also curious as to how others have accomplished this with their own plugins.

          Hello Nathaniel,
          SketchUp Ruby API has a LanguageHandler class: http://ruby.sketchup.com/LanguageHandler.html
          I think using of this class is a sort of an official way to implement localization to other languages. I've tried this way and looks like it works fine. However some extension developers prefer to use their own implementations of localization for some reasons. So it is not a some sort of a requirement, I think.

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            Garry K
            last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 13:29

            I created my own translator.

            Language implementation is not trivial as there are a lot of considerations. Since I translate the plugins Sketchup menu entries etc. the first thing I do is read my configuration file to see which language file to load. Then I load the appropriate file or en.lang if file not found.

            One big consideration is the amount of real estate that each language requires. For instance French requires about 1/3 more real estate than does English. On the other hand Chinese requires a lot less. So I built my html dialogs to automatically size themselves based on loaded language.

            I provide an untranslated English file which can be renamed and populated to any new language. Some users undertake the task of translation and share the file. I then include these files in future releases.

            Using one of the many google translators does not do a very good job of translation. It is always best to have a bilingual user that understands the plugin to help out.

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              medeek
              last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 18:01

              With translation I'm not even sure how to begin to approach this. Each menu will need to be redone.

              Do you store each possible string as a separate object in your language file.

              I'm going to have to research this further before I attempt to bite it off.

              @GarryK

              I've looked through the documentation on the built in SketchUp language handler and it seems to make sense. I've also looked at the language files you have included with your two plugins and I can get a sense of how you are handling things, or so I think.

              I guess my next big question is what are you doing different from the SketchUp language handler, why not use it?

              Another thing that jumped out at me is I would like to be able to set the language independently of the SketchUp version installed so that I can test it without having to install multiple language versions of SketchUp.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 24 Jul 2017, 02:33

                Talking to my wife today about how much time I devote to all of the different projects I'm constantly involved with, in particular the plugins and my plans to launch the much needed wall plugin. I'm coming up on two years since I started the Truss Plugin and I am quite proud of how far it has progressed but I'm even more amazed at how much more there is yet to do.

                As you all know I work a full time job and only get to this stuff in my free time which is pretty tough on the family since all my time and energy is devoted to my "work".

                My wife feels like I need to cut back on something, which I can understand.

                My work is simply work, it pays the bills and it is fairly stable and decent income.

                My passion is my plugins and other structural and design programs (design.medeek.com ) that I have created and continue to create.

                The last couple of days I've taken a hard look at the numbers and realized that the volume of customers is pretty good (currently about 350 active truss plugin users) but definitely not in the thousands or what I would consider "high volume" or "mass market". If it was in that range then I could easily offer the plugin at much lower pricing and it still could pay for the considerable time and effort that I put into it.

                As it currently stands, given the number of customers or potential customers I think I'm seeing, the plugin(s) is more of a niche item and not so much a "mass market" item.

                I guess what I am trying to say is that both myself and my wife think that in order for me to devote as much time as I do to the plugins I need to figure out a way to make it compensate me better for that time. The only two solutions I am seeing is increase the volume or increase the price.

                My major argument up until now for increasing the price is that the plugin(s) are not finished nor polished products. However this is sort of a chicken and egg problem, more money would theoretically allow me to devote more time to the development which would make the plugin(s) more valuable and worth the additional cost.

                Any ideas are welcome. Bottom line is I think there is a lot more that I have to add to the SketchUp community, I just got to figure out how to do it.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  medeek
                  last edited by 24 Jul 2017, 04:41

                  Fixed a minor bug with the tail bearing truss module. The user should now be able to input a roof pitch up to 16:12. This was such a minor fix that I'm not rolling a major revision, just a sub-revision: 1.9.5b.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 16:55

                    Over the weekend I was digging about through the board and looking at other attempts in creating BIM plugins. I noticed SketchupBIM and its development, which appears to have terminated abruptly. Whatever happened with this one?

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 20:07

                      Does anyone have any cut lists from Mitek, Simpson Strongtie or Alpine software? I've had some requests for the plugin to generate actual cut lists for the members and I am curious what these typically look like.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 26 Jul 2017, 05:39

                        Tonight I was thinking it might be kind of cool to enable an option for hip and ridge (cap) on hip roofs.

                        After about an hour of coding I generated this:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su253_800.jpg

                        I've got the hip cap figured out at the eaves but I'm a little unsure how to terminate everything where the hips meet the ridge:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su254_800.jpg

                        View model here:

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                        3D Warehouse

                        3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 26 Jul 2017, 19:55

                          I also see a lot of this locally:

                          HIPANDRIDGE2.jpg

                          Either way the modeling at this junction is going to get complicated, I'm trying to find an easy way out, that still looks good.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by 28 Jul 2017, 07:09

                            Nice work on that. Looks clean!

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              facer
                              last edited by 28 Jul 2017, 08:37

                              View Medeek's Model in Sketchfab:

                              Note option to view in Virtual Reality (VR)
                              Refer to Sketchfab instructions

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                              MEDEEK_OFFICE_HIP3 - Download Free 3D model by facer0001

                              MEDEEK OFFICE Shows example of the use of Medeek Sketchup plugins. Meedek foundation plugin for Sketchup http://design.medeek.com/resources/medeekfoundationplugin.html Medeek Truss plugin for Sketchup http://design.medeek.com/resources/medeektrussplugin.html - MEDEEK_OFFICE_HIP3 - Download Free 3D model by facer0001

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                              MEDEEK_OFFICE_HIP3_Skp16.jpg

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 28 Jul 2017, 15:05

                                The hip and ridge is now fully implemented for hip roofs as shown.

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su255_800.jpg

                                It can also handle pyramid roofs where there is no ridge cap.

                                In the global settings I will setup and option to enable this feature and also an option to set the (ridge/hip) cap width and thickness.

                                Its too late tonight but I will see what I can do tomorrow about rolling out a new version.

                                View model here:

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                                3D Warehouse

                                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                The trigonometry required to calculate the beveled cuts on those hip caps is something else, but it never fails to amaze me how it all works out once the math is right.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  facer
                                  last edited by 29 Jul 2017, 01:34

                                  %(#000000)[View Medeek's Model in Kubity:

                                  Note option to view in Virtual Reality (VR)
                                  Refer to Kubity instructions

                                  Model LINK:
                                  https://www.kubity.com/p/v8uRve ]

                                  Medeek Office by Kubity.PNG

                                  Medeek Office by Kubity.JPG

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                                    facer
                                    last edited by 29 Jul 2017, 21:57

                                    Medeek Const Library - Kickstarter Status at: 29 Jul
                                    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/128644708/medeek-construction-plugin-library

                                    Meedeek Kickstarter - update 06 - 29 jul.PNG

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 29 Jul 2017, 23:30

                                      Version 1.9.6 - 07.29.2017

                                      • Added a hip & ridge option for all hip type roofs.

                                      I will now need to setup hip & ridge for all other roof variants (gable, dutch gable etc...)

                                      I'm quite pleased with the way this has come out. Within the global settings under the "Sheathing" tab you can adjust the width and thickness of the hip/ridge cap.

                                      This option definitely adds a finished look to the roof.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 30 Jul 2017, 01:46

                                        Added a hip & ridge option for all gable truss roofs (sub. rev. 1.9.6b):

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su257_800.jpg

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su256_800.jpg

                                        View model here:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        3D Warehouse

                                        3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                        (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          facer
                                          last edited by 30 Jul 2017, 08:38

                                          Medeek Office - sliced open to show structure
                                          using Zorro2 plugin

                                          Sketchfab LINK:
                                          https://sketchfab.com/models/7dd005d09e6040e181ac2319b6dc4cfa

                                          Meedeek Office - sections.PNG
                                          Meedeek Office - sections_2 - 28 jul.PNG
                                          Medeek Office sections 003.JPG

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