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    medeek
    last edited by 2 Mar 2017, 15:07

    Thank-you for the examples posted. I appreciate the continued support of the development of this plugin. I only wish I had more time to devote to it but my current job has me occupied most of the week and weekends can be tough with competing interests.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 4 Mar 2017, 04:14

      I've been giving some though to the soffit and fascia and I realized that in many cases the design may call for a closed soffit:

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su205_800.jpg

      I've seen soffits constructed with plywood and also metal (aluminum, vented).

      Also the fascia I am creating currently should be more properly labeled the sub-fascia since in many cases the true fascia board is a thinner 5/4 or 1x material. If metal is used then the sub-fascia is covered over with a fascia cover:

      [img]
      http://www.arteroofing.com/include/get.php?nodeid=98 [/img]

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by 4 Mar 2017, 04:15

        I've been giving some though to the soffit and fascia and I realized that in many cases the design may call for a closed soffit:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su205_800.jpg

        https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/96/f9/b2/96f9b2ade22b6d526a7f1facc3bc8403.jpg

        I've seen soffits constructed with plywood and also metal (aluminum, vented).

        Also the fascia I am creating currently should be more properly labeled the sub-fascia since in many cases the true fascia board is a thinner 5/4 or 1x material. If metal is used then the sub-fascia is covered over with a fascia cover:

        http://www.trimbender.com/image/data/stories/gable.jpg

        http://woodshms.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Eaves-Detail.png

        Then of course we get into the whole boxed soffit at the corners:

        http://daveosborne.com/dave/projects/images/soffits.gif

        I would like to get some input in what you would like to see with closed soffits and fascia. I am thinking it might be useful to have a completely separate section in the global settings that deals specifically with closed soffits, fascia and corner treatment (ie. boxed corners vs. non-boxed)

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • M Offline
          medeek
          last edited by 4 Mar 2017, 04:33

          The most typical corner treatment I usually see locally is the following two methods:

          https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m1cZwre0NN8/UyYUvfx-NxI/AAAAAAAAA34/gqkNLucrZ90/w634-h845-no/soffit-fascia+details+2.jpg

          http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/5216819204_a7659c1fc7.jpg

          The second one is called a soffit box.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 5 Mar 2017, 10:26

            Medeek Truss vs. MS Physics:

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su207_800.jpg

            Pretty clear the house didn't have a chance.

            I'm actually very impressed with the collision detection of MS Physics, an amazing extension.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              pilou
              last edited by 5 Mar 2017, 15:34

              Excellent disaster if we can say that! 🤓

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 13 Mar 2017, 19:04

                I've been reviewing my Todo list lately and it really hasn't shrunk much, if anything it has grown a bit as I've added some new features in the last month and more catching up needs to be done with various truss types.

                I only work on this project part time and on the weekends as much as possible, so my progress since September of 2016 has been quite slow (took a new job with the City of Ocean Shores).

                Currently the Truss Plugin has seen the most development http://design.medeek.com/resources/pluginchangelog.html
                but I am also spread between the other separate plugins as well:

                Medeek Wall Plugin
                Medeek Structural Plugin
                Medeek Foundation Plugin
                Medeek Deck Plugin

                The structural and wall plugins will be just as complex and involved as the Truss Plugin and will require a couple years of my full time attention to get where they need to go.

                When I step back and look at everything I want to accomplish there is just no way, given my current situation, that I can achieve it. It would be nice to also be able to hire some help in knocking out some of the coding, realistically there is only so many hours in a day and only so much one person can do.

                I would really like to work full time on all of this as I see it has some serious potential and I'm also very excited about it but my previous attempt at using KickStarter to raise some working capital did not amount to much.

                I was watching Shark Tank last night and I was thinking would this type of business even have a chance in that setting? Anyhow, I am open to any ideas you might have in how to really blow this thing up and get it going.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • topic:timeago-later,13 days
                • M Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by 27 Mar 2017, 00:48

                  Version 1.8.7 - 03.26.2017

                  • Added energy/raised heels for double howe truss (3 variant: wedge, slider and vertical w/ strut).
                  • Metal plate connectors now enabled for double howe trusses.

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su208_800.jpg

                  Back to updating all the truss types with metal plates, raised heels and all other advanced options.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • topic:timeago-later,20 days
                  • M Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by 15 Apr 2017, 14:51

                    Recently I've had a couple requests for bobtail/stub end trusses.

                    http://www.perrantrusses.co.uk/images/bobtail_studend.jpg

                    When specifying how to truncate the truss, what lengths are typically used to control the location of the stub end(s)?

                    1.) Stub or heel height.
                    2.) Nominal span minus stub length

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 15 Apr 2017, 15:18

                      Then of course to further complicate matters there is the double bobtail truss which is really nothing more than a raised heel truss with unequal heel heights

                      DOUBLE_BOBTAIL.jpg

                      So rather than add in a completely new category of trusses I suppose I could just allow the user to specify a heel height for both the left and right side of the common truss. Currently the first menu has the option for a raised heel which is then applied to both sides of the truss. I think I could just update to be:

                      Raised Heel Left: YES/NO "Defaults to NO"
                      Height Height Left (in.): "Defaults to 12" if no user entry"
                      Raised Heel Right: YES/NO "Defaults to NO"
                      Heel Height Right (in.): "Defaults to SAME AS LEFT"

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 17 Apr 2017, 18:48

                        Quite a number of requests this month for the flat truss, looks like I need to re-focus my priorities again.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • M Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by 18 Apr 2017, 17:54

                          Woke up early this morning and I began to work on extending the recent polygon tool (in the foundation plugin) to the floor joist module in the truss plugin. There are some differences but the principles and methods are nearly the same.

                          It just occurred to me that when sections of floor joists are the same (ie. L-shaped floor) it would be useful to have joists that are the same geometrically (length) all use the same component definition so that they could all be edited at once. This same concept would also be useful for the slab reinforcement. I plan on making this change to both plugins so that editing after the fact is facilitated as much as possible.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • topic:timeago-later,9 days
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                            medeek
                            last edited by 28 Apr 2017, 05:03

                            Version 1.8.8 - 04.28.2017

                            • Added energy/raised heels for mod fan truss (3 variant: wedge, slider and vertical w/ strut).
                            • Metal plate connectors now enabled for mod fan trusses.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su209_800.jpg

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • F Offline
                              facer
                              last edited by 28 Apr 2017, 07:48

                              Chinese users will love this version 😄

                              Version 1.8.8 - 04.28.2017

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 29 Apr 2017, 22:49

                                Looks wonderful!

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                • M Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 1 May 2017, 04:46

                                  Version 1.8.9 - 05.01.2017

                                  • Added energy/raised heels for triple fink truss (3 variant: wedge, slider and vertical w/ strut).
                                  • Metal plate connectors now enabled for triple fink trusses.

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su215_800.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • J Offline
                                    juju
                                    last edited by 4 May 2017, 14:19

                                    What are the chances of you doing a version of this that does steel trusses? Not really useful for residential, but for industrial / commercial it would be useful.

                                    Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by 4 May 2017, 21:48

                                      While I myself most likely would not model rebar or even studs, the quick generation of a visually complete house model (no innards) is very desirable and this last house model looks great. Just that visual shell would be my preference. Emphasis on exterior views, and possibly a foundation model that can be viewed by the design and construction team. Maybe some ability for some interior shots, sun study, fly-through, or top-down (Minus roof) view of rooms. Still the framing is very impressive and looks wonderful!

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by 4 May 2017, 21:50

                                        I assume standard finishes are included in the plugins? You might add standard trim such as dimensional corner trim frieze boards and water tables. Just what's needed for a start-- the user can model special trim for themselves.

                                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 4 May 2017, 23:17

                                          So many possibilities and so little time.

                                          I've now extended my list of plugins that I would like to create or am currently creating to:

                                          1.) Truss Plugin (roofs and floors)
                                          2.) Foundation Plugin (stem, sog, slab, spread ftg.)
                                          3.) Wall Plugin (stud walls)
                                          4.) Stairway Plugin (wood, concrete and steel stairways)
                                          5.) Structural Plugin (calculation of beams, footings, posts, shearwalls etc...)
                                          6.) Reinforced Concrete Plugin (RC columns, beams, retaining walls, piles, mat foundations, spread footings, etc...
                                          7.) Steel Framing Plugin (cold formed steel framing, steel wide flange beams and posts, steel trusses, NUCOR steel buildings)
                                          8.) Deck Plugin (residential wood decks, balconies, stairs, footings)
                                          9.) Window and Door Plugin (windows, doors, OH Doors, Garage Doors, interior doors)

                                          The window and door plugin will probably be part of the wall plugin, but I might also make it a separate standalone plugin if users want that.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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