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[Plugin] Add Height from Datum

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    pbacot
    last edited by 26 Sept 2012, 04:18

    This is very handy. Been using it lately. Thanks!

    I notice the text seems to "show through" other objects. If you have it inside a house you can see it from outside. Is that special feature? Unusual.

    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 26 Sept 2012, 08:08

      @pbacot said:

      This is very handy. Been using it lately. Thanks!

      I notice the text seems to "show through" other objects. If you have it inside a house you can see it from outside. Is that special feature? Unusual.
      It's plain Text - it does that - try it with some 'ordinary' Text and you'll see how that does it too...

      TIG

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 26 Sept 2012, 08:09

        @unknownuser said:

        TIG I've been having some bug splats when I move the text in the datum text using the text command. I'll try to narrow down a repeatable crash and let you know.
        OK, that's the first report like this - I can't replicate it.
        If you move it with 'Move' rather than using the 'Text' relocation facilities [needed to 'lock' the arrow-head onto an object - because this can't be done easily in the API]... is it then OK ?
        Let me know what you find...

        TIG

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          unclex
          last edited by 27 Sept 2012, 10:25

          could add a datum symbol?
          such as a component skp file, can defined by user

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            Woodarc
            last edited by 2 Jan 2013, 16:29

            How do I load this plugin please?

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              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 3 Jan 2013, 00:13

              @woodarc said:

              How do I load this plugin please?
              There is a .rb file in the first post in this tool's thread. Download that file.
              Move it into the Sketchup Plugins folder and restart Sketchup...
              It then auto-loads and adds two items to the Plugins Menu '>>Add Height above Datum' and '>>Set Datum'.
              Read the tool's instructions on the download page, and others' useful advice in this thread too...

              NOTE: that since you on a PC you must ensure that you have FULL access rights to the main Plugins folder.
              To check/fix this - select its icon in Windows Explorer, context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
              Being an Admin is NOT enough to ensure things go smoothly.
              A file might look to you that it's got put into the Plugins folder, but if you have limited access-rights then Windows may have put it into a VirtualStore - a 'Compatibility Files...' [or similar] button/link in the folder's Windows Explorer top bars is a sure sign of problems...
              Also have the same FULL rights set for the Components, Materials and Styles folders, since you will also want to write files to these from time to time...

              TIG

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                caronte01
                last edited by 8 Mar 2013, 03:18

                I really like this one. Very useful.

                Tig, thanks a lot!!!

                Santiago

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                  JClements
                  last edited by 22 Jan 2015, 23:44

                  Hi TIG,

                  Would it be possible to have the Eye Height function of the Look Around tool respect the Datum set by this script? So, for instance, if I set the datum of the origin at 236' 7 1/2", I could input 336' 7 1/2" for eight Eye Height and the camera would rise to 100' above the origin.

                  John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 23 Jan 2015, 11:11

                    Sorry John - no easily 😞

                    TIG

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 8 Feb 2017, 13:09

                      Here's v2.0
                      http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=heighttool_datum
                      It has been updated [after 8 years !]
                      It's now in a module, avoids global variables etc.
                      It's also signed for v2016/2017 compatibility in all Loading Policies...

                      The tool now sets up a submenu in the Plugins|Extensions Menu, its item
                      'Height Above Datum > Add Height Above Datum' is the main tool.
                      On selecting it this will become the active tool.
                      Hovering on a point shows its height above datum (default z=0=ground plane).
                      Clicking the left mouse button adds a text label with that height
                      Selecting another tool will stop this being the active tool
                      Change the tool's Datum using 'Height Above Datum > Set Datum' submenu item
                      This datum is remembered with each Model as an Attribute.
                      Any preexisting labels are updated to reflect the new datum.
                      Convert selected text into height labels using the submenu item
                      'Height Above Datum > Make Selected Text Dynamic'
                      Moving a height label vertically changes the height shown in it.
                      Height labels have an observer attached which auto-updates them.
                      The observers now properly attach to models/tags irrespective of the way way they are [re]opened...

                      TIG

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                        JClements
                        last edited by 8 Feb 2017, 14:53

                        TIG, first of all, thank you!

                        Three suggestions for an update:

                        1- Would it be possible to add to the submenu, an option to specify a new (or existing) layer the leader text would automatically be assigned too?

                        After using the plugin, a lot for all these years, I find that the text can get in the way at times but is still is required. So being able to turn it off for certain scenes via the Layer Manager is the answer ... but I often forget to change layers before using the plugin.

                        2- Ability to add prefix-text to a leader's text with descriptors such as "TOS" (top of slab) or "Pipe Invert" . That text would remain even if attached to geometry that is moved but could later be edited manually by the user.

                        3- Instead of creating the leader with a mouse-click, have it created via click-and-drag. With the current version, many times I have to adjust the leader's position with the text tool immediately after placing it with the mouse-click.

                        John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                          rv1974
                          last edited by 7 Jul 2017, 05:01

                          TIG, I'm dreaming about a commercialdatum script that would interactivelyshow the changing in terrain while I'm sculpting (say with artisan or sandbox tools).
                          And reversely , if changing the level value could set the mesh (below) height it'd be oblivion. there must be soft selection setting for influence controlling though.
                          Another request: sloping displaying(in percents). Is it doable?

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                            ak-sam
                            last edited by 8 Nov 2017, 01:09

                            @jclements said:

                            TIG, first of all, thank you!

                            Three suggestions for an update:

                            1- Would it be possible to add to the submenu, an option to specify a new (or existing) layer the leader text would automatically be assigned too?

                            After using the plugin, a lot for all these years, I find that the text can get in the way at times but is still is required. So being able to turn it off for certain scenes via the Layer Manager is the answer ... but I often forget to change layers before using the plugin.

                            2- Ability to add prefix-text to a leader's text with descriptors such as "TOS" (top of slab) or "Pipe Invert" . That text would remain even if attached to geometry that is moved but could later be edited manually by the user.

                            3- Instead of creating the leader with a mouse-click, have it created via click-and-drag. With the current version, many times I have to adjust the leader's position with the text tool immediately after placing it with the mouse-click.

                            YES and YES!

                            Add Height from Datum is brilliant.... however for commercial use, when we mark up a plan with 100s of spot heights, we don't want to see the word "Height" on each one...these drawings get very very cluttered. My industry uses RL:41.1 (relative level).
                            The only way to change Height into RL is to cut and paste the tags thus making them plain text.

                            For the same reason, we need the ability to shift the tag.

                            In my case I have to label the top and bottom of a retaining wall - but these points sit directly above each other so i get two labels in the same place = unreadable.

                            Here's hoping a fix isn't too much work - if it is I'll top up your cookie jar/beer fridge.

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                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 8 Nov 2017, 12:53

                              You can easily edit the script [for your own in-house use]
                              Use Notepad++ on PC or TextWrangler on a MAC, to open its main RB file in the Plugins folder named:
                              #heighttool_datum.rb
                              We are going to remove the "Height: " prefix from all tags...

                              Find line #74 - to stop an initial prefix - which reads:
                              txt="Height: #{z}"
                              Edit it to read:
                              txt="#{z}"

                              Find line #103 - to trap for updated datums affecting tags - which reads:
                              e.set_text("Height: "+(e.point.z+@datum).to_l.to_s)
                              Edit it to read:
                              e.set_text((e.point.z+@datum).to_l.to_s)
                              Repeat the edit for the equivalent text in line #109...

                              Find line #127 - to correct the text changes in the observer's action - which reads:
                              t.set_text("Height: "+(t.point.z+datum).to_l.to_s)
                              Edit it to read:
                              t.set_text((t.point.z+datum).to_l.to_s)

                              Save the changes to the file and then start up SketchUp to see the effect...

                              TIG

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                                srx
                                last edited by 8 Nov 2017, 16:58

                                Is it possible to wrap this datum in a component representing symbol for high in the floor plan? Similar to attributes in Autocad?

                                www.saurus.rs

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                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by 9 Dec 2017, 03:15

                                  Use the tool quite a lot in site models. When I set height above datum, however the leader is not nice and long like the ones in the video. It is short and level so is almost always obscured by the object being referenced. I move the text afteward.

                                  Anyway really useful tool! Thanks!

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    rv1974
                                    last edited by 9 Dec 2017, 06:04

                                    TIG Some humble requests here (I'd happy to see them as commercial ones):
                                    *) A second alternative datum line
                                    It's very common to use to datum systems: one is above the sea level, second- project's one simultaneously.
                                    *) Even though the file units in are centimeters the level values come in meters.
                                    *) Slope indication tool, especially as percent value?
                                    *) Is Interactive update a doable thing?

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                                      JClements
                                      last edited by 14 Dec 2017, 07:22

                                      Hi TIG:

                                      When using SU2018 there seems to be a glitch. The starting point of the leader for the elevation label is no longer "sticky" (if the surface or end-point to which leader is pointing is pushpulled or moved, the leader doesn't move with it).

                                      However, when "Make Selected Text Dynamic" is applied to a regular leader text, the leader of the converted text IS "sticky".

                                      Regards, John

                                      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 14 Dec 2017, 13:12

                                        It has never been possible to 'attach' a text arrowhead using API code [it can be done with a dim].
                                        The manual attachment can't be copied.

                                        However, you can manually attach these pieces of text yourself.
                                        Add the tag.
                                        Activate the Text tool, select the tag's arrowhead and with the mouse button kept down drag the arrowhead and lock it onto the desired face or edge, if you select the text-part you can also relocate that...

                                        TIG

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                                          JClements
                                          last edited by 14 Dec 2017, 15:15

                                          Thanks, TIG.
                                          I guess my age status/memory was playing tricks on me. :}

                                          Also, what works is assign a shortcut key to "Make Selected Text Dynamic" and the Text tool.
                                          Draw a label. When finished and the Text tool is still active, pass (and keep) the cursor over the leader to select it and then use the shortcut for "Make Selected Text Dynamic".

                                          .... I don't suppose a script could do something similar, could it? Add Datum would start the Text Tool and also an observer of some kind which looks at Text tool activity. When the user completes the label, it is selected and the "Make Selected Text Dynamic" is applied.

                                          John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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