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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Typical stem wall foundation (crawlspace) with interior strip footing and floor beam. This is what is built locally around these parts (Ocean Shores, Washington):

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      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
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        Nice.

        If the girder is only supporting the floor, around here we use isolated post and piers without the connecting footing.

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          I've seen the footings done both ways. Locally the majority of homes are built very close to the beach directly on sand with a high water table that fluctuates with the tides. The strip footing helps prevent shifting of the piers and posts and uneven settlement.

          Out of curiosity what are the typical dimensions of your piers? and posts?

          Some contractors locally like to use 4x4 posts and some default to 4x6 with a floor beam size of 4X8 fairly typical. When I do the engineering I will check the floor beams and posts as well as the soil pressure at the footing but I rarely encounter a problem.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            Version 1.0.2 - 07.08.2016

            • Added stemwall foundation type (rectangular outline only).
            • Enabled post and pier interior floor beam(s) with a strip footing.
            • Added brick ledge option to stemwall foundation.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/foundation_su5_800.jpg

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            The interior floor/footing assembly is grouped as a component so that adding extra floor beams or moving them is easily accomplished.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              Something that will working with every start surface will be very fine! ๐Ÿค“
              (Flying Forewoman! ๐Ÿ˜„
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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
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                Would it be easier for a user to pick a number of points to describe a polygon or to have a tool that allows one to select an existing face as that polygon? I also need a stemwall tool that allows one to create single walls (curved or linear) since there are times where you do not want to create a closed polygon outline.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  When the user selects a type B footing (stemwall foundation) a keyway is inserted between the stemwall and footing:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/foundation_su6_800.jpg

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                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • facerF Offline
                    facer
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                    View Medeek skp models in 3D Viewer

                    When viewing plugin at given link such as
                    https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.XXXXXX
                    you can activate the 3D WebGL Viewer to inspect the 3D Model.


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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
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                      I'm trying to determine which is the preferred method of blocking out a stemwall foundation for garage doors where a slab will be poured in the garage. I've seen it done both ways. Option 1 does not typically block all of the stemwall out and seems to be more common in locations where the frostline is deeper (24" or deeper). Option 2 completely blocks out the stemwall at the garage door and then a thicken edge is poured where the slab meets the footing at the garage door. From a structural point of view which is the better method and also from a construction point of view what are the pros and cons?

                      Option 1:

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/foundation_su7_800.jpg

                      Option 2:

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/foundation_su8_800.jpg

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                      Medeek Engineering Inc
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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        I should point out I've also seen a sort of a combination of the two options where the blockout does not extend to the footing but a thickened edge is employed at the slab/door interface and the thickened edge is typically 2x the slab thickness, or called out as a minimum dimension of 8".

                        Option 3:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/foundation_su9_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          That looks like a better one. Then there's someone I am working with now who wants the slab floating and not resting or tied to the foundation at all. Preference could depend on soils.

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            If there is enough room between the footing and the slab I could see how one could omit the stemwall and have a layer of gravel, sand, soil between the slab and the footing at the opening. I have never seen a slab poured that way at the garage door opening but it doesn't mean it can't be done. I supposed one could even go so far as omit the footing across the opening as well but from a structural standpoint I would highly discourage that, much better to tie the building foundation together at the perimeter with regard to lateral loads.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • K Offline
                              KrisM
                              last edited by

                              Option 1 is what I have used many times. Never the others. Frost depth 2 to 3 feet typically.

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                The blockout methods seem to be all over the board, I've even talked with some of my engineering friends and the response is mixed there as well. I guess I just need to provide the option for any of these three configurations within the plugin. Sometimes I feel that I get bogged down in the details but I hope some of this level of detail is appreciated.

                                The other issue I'm having with slabs within garage spaces is the slope of the slab. I'm trying to determine if is worth trying to incorporate a slope into the slab as it would actually be poured. As far as I know there is not a minimum slope specified for garage floors in the IRC 2015 or earlier only this fairly general statement:

                                [highlight=#ffffcf:1d83tmnb]The area of the floor used for parking of automobiles or other vehicles shall be sloped to facilitate the movement of liquids to a drain or toward the main vehicle entry doorway.[/highlight:1d83tmnb]

                                Typically the garage slope is 1/8" per foot or 1:96, how critical is this to you the user of the plugin? Flat would be easier to program but then your blocked out entries on the side of a garage would be only theoretical.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • M Offline
                                  MtnArch
                                  last edited by

                                  A few observations ...

                                  1. In residential construction here in central California the norm is to pour the garage slab monolithically with the footings. Some builders will pour the footings and stems first and then come back with the garage floor slab, but there aren't many. Our frost depth is very shallow.
                                  2. My preference for sloping of the garage slab is to have a 3-1/2" drop at the top end below the residence's finished floor slab and sloped down to 5-1/2" at the garage door end.

                                  Highest Regards,

                                  Alan T. Hendry, RA
                                  Architect

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                                  • K Offline
                                    KrisM
                                    last edited by

                                    My feeling about slopes is that I absolutely want to model them. There are a lot of instances where having the real slope gives you valuable information with regard to the actual construction. A case in point would be - What is the real height of a deck beam. I would rather have this information on the drawing or model rather that having the carpenter figuring it out on the jobsite.
                                    With respect to garage slabs, I usually have the slab 2" min below the adjacent house floor with a 2" slope from the back of the garage to the garage door.

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      And where do you set the floor height from. Usually I end up working out what is best at the rear of the garage and sloping from there.

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Here is a quick study on a garage slab that slopes 3" over about 24':

                                        https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/warehouse/getpubliccontent?contentId=56f0432b-fa0a-4b44-852c-5c5c8370351e

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                                        What to do with the slope at the garage door? I've flattened it out but that leaves a line in the slab.

                                        At the side door entrance the right side of the slab is about 3/8" higher than the left side. Entrances that are parallel to the slope will have this property (problem?).

                                        At the rear of the garage the slab is 6" below the top of the foundation and at the garage door it is 9" below the top. Perusing through different plan sets I've collected over the years this seems pretty typical for the slope (1/8" in 12").

                                        I think I should probably make the slope an option so those that want to model it can.

                                        Rather than make the slope a percent grade or degrees I think it would be easiest to let the users specify a total rise or drop for the entire slab.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          I was playing with the Dibac plugin a little bit today and I really like the wall creation tool or how it works when selecting the 2D wall layout. I think I can program something like this for stem wall creation (polyline) that would allow the user to select any random stem wall layout. I've pretty much got it worked out already but I'm trying to figure out how to do that little trick with the tab key which allows the user to toggle the wall justification. Any hints would be appreciated.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            I've been investigating attributes today trying to get a better handle on this aspect of SketchUp. I've noticed that the housebuilder plugin creates a category called "einfo" and stores a number of variables one of which is the "origin". If you manually move the wall group the origin attribute will automatically reflect this change in location. This is exactly the feature I need for my various assemblies (groups) so that I can add an edit feature. Howevever, I can't seem to figure out how this attribute is automatically updating. When I create an "origin" attribute under a "einfo" category it does not update. I must be missing something.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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