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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 30 Nov 2015, 03:19

    With the main roof sheathing:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su27_800.jpg

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su28_800.jpg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      juju
      last edited by 30 Nov 2015, 14:58

      I think the most universal is probably to have the manual in PDF?

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        medeek
        last edited by 30 Nov 2015, 22:36

        I think I'll create in MS Word and then save it into PDF.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 6 Dec 2015, 23:21

          This revised code seems to work:

          
          module Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions
          
          	module MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader
          
          
          	require 'sketchup.rb'
          	require 'extensions.rb'
          	require 'langhandler.rb'
          
          	# Show the Ruby Console at startup so we can
          	# see any programming errors we may make.
          	# SKETCHUP_CONSOLE.show
          	
          
          
          
          	this_dir=File.dirname(__FILE__)
          	# Fix for ruby 2.0
          	if this_dir.respond_to?(;force_encoding)
          		this_dir=this_dir.dup.force_encoding("UTF-8")
          	end
          	PATH=this_dir
          	entries=Dir.entries(this_dir)
          	ext=".rbs"
          
          
          	# Add a toolbar item to launch our plugin.
          
          	toolbar = UI;;Toolbar.new "Medeek Truss"
               	
               	cmd = UI;;Command.new("Draw Roof Truss") {
          
          		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs"))
          		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;MedeekMethods.roof_truss_family_menu
               	}
              		cmd.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_2.png"
               		cmd.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_2.png"
               		cmd.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              		cmd.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Truss"
              		cmd.menu_text = "Roof Truss"
               		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd
               		# toolbar.show
          
          	cmd2 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Floor Truss") {
          
                 		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs"))
          		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;FloorTruss;;MedeekMethods.floor_truss_family_menu
               	}
              		cmd2.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_3.png"
               		cmd2.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_3.png"
               		cmd2.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              		cmd2.status_bar_text = "Draw Floor Truss"
              		cmd2.menu_text = "Floor Truss"
               		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd2
               		# toolbar.show
          
          	cmd3 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Truss Set") {
          
                 		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs"))
          		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;TrussSet;;MedeekMethods.truss_set_family_menu
               	}
              		cmd3.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_4.png"
               		cmd3.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_4.png"
               		cmd3.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              		cmd3.status_bar_text = "Draw Truss Set"
              		cmd3.menu_text = "Truss Set"
               		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd3
               		# toolbar.show
          
          	cmd4 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Roof Rafters") {
          
                 		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs"))
          		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;RoofRafters;;MedeekMethods.roof_rafters_family_menu
               	}
              		cmd4.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_5.png"
               		cmd4.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_5.png"
               		cmd4.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              		cmd4.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Rafters"
              		cmd4.menu_text = "Roof Rafters"
               		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd4
               		toolbar.show
          
          
          	# Add a menu item to launch our plugin.
          
          	submenu = UI.menu("Plugins").add_submenu("Medeek Truss")
          	submenu.add_item(cmd)
          	submenu.add_item(cmd2)
          	submenu.add_item(cmd3)
          	submenu.add_item(cmd4)
          	
          
          
          	end
          end
          

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • M Offline
            medeek
            last edited by 6 Dec 2015, 23:24

            Now the largest file is only about 12,000 lines, a bit more manageable. If I spend some time cleaning it up and compressing redundant sections I can probably get it to half that amount.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 6 Dec 2015, 23:26

              Up until now I have maintained all of the code in one large file. However I keep adding more features so I need to split it out into multiple files to keep things manageable. My new load .rb file is attempting to use a method I found on another board but I'm getting a situation where the first click on the icon loads the plugin as it should however subsequent clicks on the menu or icon do nothing.

              The problem is that after the menu item runs once it will not fire again.
              Here is a snippet of the Medeek_Load.rb file :

              module Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions
              
              	module MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader
              
              	# Show the Ruby Console at startup so we can
              	# see any programming errors we may make.
              	# SKETCHUP_CONSOLE.show
              
              
              	this_dir=File.dirname(__FILE__)
              	# Fix for ruby 2.0
              	if this_dir.respond_to?(:force_encoding)
              		this_dir=this_dir.dup.force_encoding("UTF-8")
              	end
              	PATH=this_dir
              	entries=Dir.entries(this_dir)
              	ext=".rbs"
              
              
              	# Add a toolbar item to launch our plugin.
              
              	toolbar = UI::Toolbar.new "Medeek Truss"
              
              cmd = UI::Command.new("Draw Roof Truss") {
              
              		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs"))
              }
              	cmd.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_2.png"
              	cmd.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_2.png"
              	cmd.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              	cmd.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Truss"
              	cmd.menu_text = "Roof Truss"
              	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd
              	# toolbar.show
              
              	cmd2 = UI::Command.new("Draw Floor Truss") {
              
              	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs"))
              }
              	cmd2.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_3.png"
              	cmd2.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_3.png"
              	cmd2.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              	cmd2.status_bar_text = "Draw Floor Truss"
              	cmd2.menu_text = "Floor Truss"
              	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd2
              	# toolbar.show
              
              	cmd3 = UI::Command.new("Draw Truss Set") {
              
              	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs"))
              }
              	cmd3.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_4.png"
              	cmd3.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_4.png"
              	cmd3.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              	cmd3.status_bar_text = "Draw Truss Set"
              	cmd3.menu_text = "Truss Set"
              	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd3
              	toolbar.show
              
              	cmd4 = UI::Command.new("Draw Roof Rafters") {
              
              	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs"))
              }
              	cmd4.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_5.png"
              	cmd4.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_5.png"
              	cmd4.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
              	cmd4.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Rafters"
              	cmd4.menu_text = "Roof Rafters"
              	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd4
              	toolbar.show
              
              
              	# Add a menu item to launch our plugin.
              
              	submenu = UI.menu("Plugins").add_submenu("Medeek Truss")
              	submenu.add_item("Roof Truss") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs")) }
              	submenu.add_item("Floor Truss") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs")) }
              	submenu.add_item("Truss Set") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs")) }
              	submenu.add_item("Roof Rafters") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs")) }
              	
              
              
              	end
              end
              

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                juju
                last edited by 7 Dec 2015, 07:40

                @medeek said:

                Now the largest file is only about 12,000 lines, a bit more manageable. If I spend some time cleaning it up and compressing redundant sections I can probably get it to half that amount.

                Coding related queries will probably be addressed a lot faster if you post them in the developers section of the forum?

                http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=180

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                  medeek
                  last edited by 7 Dec 2015, 13:22

                  Version 1.1.8 - 12.07.2015

                  • Added Gable Rafter Roof.
                  • Advanced options enabled for gable rafter roofs (sub-fascia, outlookers, sheathing, and rakeboards).
                  • New submenu item and toolbar icon added for rafter roof type.
                  • Plugin divided into multiple files for ease of management.

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su29_800.jpg

                  Structural outlookers for this type of a roof are still somewhat of a question. If they are horizontal it makes sense to notch the gable rafter but what if they are vertical?

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 9 Dec 2015, 04:14

                    Version 1.1.8 - 12.08.2015

                    • Structural Outlookers enabled for gable rafter roofs (vertical & horizontal).

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su30_800.jpg

                    Notice in this case I have left the gable rafter in place but notched clean through it, so essentially it is blocking. However, I have also given the option for removing the gable rafter entirely. You will also notice that the gable rafter is the same depth as the outlookers, when you choose "CUSTOM" for the gable end rafter it allows one to specify the depth of this rafter.

                    When structural outlookers are used in a vertical orientation it is common practice to have them bear directly on the double top plate of the gable wall (balloon framed to roof). If there is some configuration that is standard in your neck of the woods that I am missing please let me know. I am currently providing three different configurations for the gable end rafters.

                    I think I am ready to now attack the gable rafter roof with glulam beam.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 9 Dec 2015, 08:16

                      Admittedly the user interface is still very rough around the edges. One thing I've started working on is making the default values assume the last values inputted by the user. The code is fairly simple but updating all of the different menus is tedious because I have quite a few truss types now. This should make creating multiple truss sets in a document even quicker since parameters like roof pitch, overhangs and heel heights are typically the same for a given structure.

                      To test this functionality currently, download the latest version 1.1.8 and test the common truss types (Imperial Units). I will be updating all menus so that this functionality is present.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 9 Dec 2015, 23:29

                        I'm wondering with my rafter roof if I should provide an option to draw ceiling joists?

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/SAMPLE_RAFTER.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          pcmoor
                          last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 00:09

                          option to draw ceiling joists? That would be great and a collar tie and ridge tie option. Better still give the option to place them at a given height.

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 03:22

                            Adding in ceiling joists is not a big deal but I don't want to add features that only complicate the plugin and the user experience. I could also make an option to offset the ceiling joist off of the wall top plate for a "raised" ceiling joist.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 14:06

                              I'm getting ready to add in Glulam beams for rafter roofs. However, as I'm sorting out the details I'm trying to determine what would be the best way of modeling them. I would like to show the different plies but at the same time if someone wants to cut the beam, bevel it etc... I need to have it easily modifiable.

                              At first I was going to make a component for a single ply and then copy multiple instances. The problem with that idea is a beveled cut would then be difficult to make.

                              On a slightly different note I am wondering if there are standard metric sizes for Glulam Beams? I am using the 2015 AWC NDS Supplement for the standard US sizes. What similar standard exists for metric sizes?

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                juju
                                last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 14:29

                                given the differing sizes used (just referencing what is available in South Africa, not to mention globally), it's possibly best to create options for how many laminates and give the sizing for it...

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 16:16

                                  The way I'm setting it up is the first menu takes you to an html web dialog (menu) that allows one to select from standard sizes from drop down menus. Then it automatically drops those values into the regular geometry UI were you can manually edit the depth, width and ply thickness of the glulam so the possibilities are infinite and complete customizable.

                                  I like the ability to offer a prompt that gives standard sizes since I feel that is where some of the value comes in my plugin. It saves the designer having to go to the books to look up an actual available size, its all right there at the click of a mouse.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 10 Dec 2015, 17:38

                                    Version 1.1.9 - 12.10.2015

                                    • Added Gable Rafter Roof with Glulam Beam (all advanced options enabled).

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su31_800.jpg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 11 Dec 2015, 00:07

                                      If anyone can give me links to resources documenting standard sizes for Glulam Beams (metric or imperial) I can work at getting those added into plugin and available for use.

                                      Currently I have the following glulam beam standards available:

                                      [Imperial Units]

                                      • AWC 2012 NDS Supplement Table 1C (Western Species) and 1D (Southern Pine).

                                      [Metric Units]

                                      • AWC 2012 NDS Supplement Table 1C (Western Species) and 1D (Southern Pine).

                                      With metric input the inch units of the NDS glulam selection is converted to mm. This is merely a stop gap until I can get some standardized tables entered for metric sizes.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 11 Dec 2015, 01:25

                                        After doing a bit of digging around on the internet I'm not sure standardized metric sizes will be something that is achievable.

                                        For example two different size tables for glulam beams from two different manufacturers in New Zealand (both conform to the AS/NZS 1328 Standard):

                                        http://design.medeek.com/images/misc/GLULAM_SIZES_NZ.jpg

                                        The various widths and depths are all over the board. Is there even a standardized ply thickness? Looking at these tables I cannot tell.

                                        Perhaps other countries in Europe, Asia and Africa have more standardized methods like the United States.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          facer
                                          last edited by 11 Dec 2015, 01:35

                                          In Victoria Australia there are several sources that should be the
                                          same as NZ.

                                          One Example is noted below,
                                          Refer to p 10 - p 13 in the pdf document:
                                          http://www.wpv.org.au/docs/STPG.pdf

                                          Wood Products Victoria (WPV)
                                          The goal of Wood Products Victoria (WPV) is to ensure that sustainable timber and wood products grown, harvested, processed, manufactured or sold within Victoria or by Victorian-based businesses are supported by:

                                          › informed research
                                          › credible technical publications
                                          › comprehensive customer information, and
                                          › positive product and market development.
                                          Wood Products Victoria Ltd was established in June 2006.

                                          The Board of Directors includes representatives of timber growers, manufacturers, distributors and retailers who wish to ensure the ongoing viability of this sustainable, natural building resource.

                                          For further information about WPV and its activities please email info@wpv.org.au or
                                          call (61 3) 9611 9042.

                                          Refer to p 10 - p 13 in the pdf document:
                                          http://www.wpv.org.au/docs/STPG.pdf

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