Layout: Love it or Loathe it?
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"it sucks working with it"
Exactly, that's just it !
Obviously breaking the chain with tradi-cad is sad & frustrating, but for me less painful than working with LO.
For us here the LO experience is like trying to thread a needle with oven gloves on...
If it ever became as fluid & fast & compatible with the outside world as SU, we'd be very happy, but it is just NOT there.
Maybe the Trimble folks are working on it and LO 4 will be all brand new & perfect ?
Meantime, we are looking at Spaceclaim...Good luck Trimble team.
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@paddyclown said:
Obviously breaking the chain with tradi-cad is sad & frustrating, but for me less painful than working with LO.
That is the only thing I don't agree with you. It's because of the advantages "of breaking the chain with tradi-cad", that we can endure the "sadness & frustration" of working with LO.
@unknownuser said:
For us here the LO experience is like trying to thread a needle with oven gloves on...
If it ever became as fluid & fast & compatible with the outside world as SU, we'd be very happy, but it is just NOT there.I also ALMOST agree with you here. ALMOST is the word. LO it's not there but it's ALMOST there.
@unknownuser said:
Maybe the Trimble folks are working on it and LO 4 will be all brand new & perfect ?
Meantime, we are looking at Spaceclaim...Good luck Trimble team.
That is exactly the danger here. LO advertises itself and promises a lot of things. It can do a lot of things but doesn't plainly fulfil all promises that it advertises itself.
This causes frustration and opens up possibilites for other software companies to claim the space Sketchup created in such a brilliant way.
I've invested a lot in SU+LO combo. More than it's wise for anyone to do with something that he doesn't know if it will pay off. It did in my case but I'm sure my case is not everyone's case nor people have the same availability to dig for what they need until they find a way. LO needs a lot of this. A lot of workaround for some things that should be direct.
So I'm always searching for better ways of doing my stuff. Spaceclaim did cross my mind and will cross many minds as other software will. I can say I'm faithful to SU+LO combo for a lot of reasons, this community included as a reason.
Fortunatelly for LO, Layout has Sketchup behind, and sketchup really has a wide scope of possibilities so it's a software that really fills a lot of purposes.
Fortunatelly for Sketchup, LO exists and is still in development as If it didn't exist some of Sketchup possibilities would be hindered.
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Guys, I'm interested to know how you work with gridlines in architectural work. I've set up a scrapbook file of gridlines for my work which I overlay on the SU scene but ideally I want them in the SU file. Hence the DESPERATE need for linetypes in SU....
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Why don't you try to use 2d tools for line types?
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Because I prefer to work in Vector or Hybrid mode, Pete. [although hybrid is less preferred].
2D tools, as good as they are don't work well scaling linetypes in LO.
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@utiler said:
Guys, I'm interested to know how you work with gridlines in architectural work. I've set up a scrapbook file of gridlines for my work which I overlay on the SU scene but ideally I want them in the SU file. Hence the DESPERATE need for linetypes in SU....
I usually draw the lines in SU, Import them or copy paste them inside LO, place them on the right spot and explode them in LO.
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Hello
Since I use Sketchup I am beginning not realized what layout means ... But now I use it often and am very happy! It is ultimately very good! I use it for presentation interior Renderings.
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Anyone heard from the Layout beta test team after sending info to Marc? I have not heard anything...
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No Chuck, I'm sure he'll get back to you here.
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If they were to let anyone in I don't think you'd be able to say anything to anyone. Unless they don't do NDA's... but I bet they do.
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too bad Trimble doesn't talk in public about the next release. Also, too bad they don't have more update cycles to squash bugs. As a pro user who uses SU & LO every day, I sometime feel a bit let down having to wait 4-6 months before maybe something is fixed (or not). Keeping fingers crossed for next release!
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I think as much as we suggest that layout has its shortcomings, its an amazing tool for, as I've found, a host of work outside of architectural presentation!
That said some of those shortcuts are incredibly limiting.
BTW Chuck, I'll challenge you for the longest list!
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The thing about lists is they tend to get longer when not much is ever removed from them.
And Richard, I'm pretty sure yours is longer, haha...
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@otb designworks said:
The thing about lists is they tend to get longer when not much is ever removed from them.
It is growing! And you are right, at a faster rate than the wish list being ticked.
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@otb designworks said:
The thing about lists is they tend to get longer when not much is ever removed from them.
And therein lies the problem with way too much software development.
"Oooh, we can change the UI to something hideous and impractical! Backburner the bug list for another six months while we work on this!"
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