Windows 10
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@numerobis said:
I think it should work like with win 7 pro/home. Home comes without some networking and group policy features, but thats the same for win 7 home.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/Compare (Business Experiences)The big change from Win7 Home to Win 10 Home is that you can't disable automatic updates!
Thanks for the reply. They changed a few things from 7 to 10 so it's no guarantee it will work in 10 again. Your link clearly states - no domain join for win10home. Still hesitating to upgrade if I'm not 100% sure it will work.
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/privacystatement/default.aspx
This is the reason why Win 10 is "free". The new No.1 spyware in the world... nothing comes for free!
I will not update any of my Win 7 licenses until it`s safe to say that you can disable everything of these data collectors.
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@kaas said:
no domain join for win10home.
As far as i know this was the same for Win 7 and XP
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This reminds me of the two way screens in Orwell's "1984" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen ...Windows became Android. With no alternative. Maybe Linux will stay the only one way operating system?
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I bit the bullet and switched, the initial setup was a fail but a second attempt went OK. Apart from not being able to find stuff it seems usefully quicker than win 7 but I am still finding my way around.
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I don't know if it disables everything and if it is safe to use, but it is at least a beginning...
http://onhax.net/how-to-stop-windows-10-spying-on-you-guide/
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Cheers Mike, I was going to switch on the weekend but time beat me.
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Big Data is the next Big Thing: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr
Windows 7 will be gone in 4 years. SketchUP for Linux? -
@srx said:
Big Data is the next Big Thing: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr
Windows 7 will be gone in 4 years. SketchUP for Linux?IIRC there is an emulator called WINE for running windows apps on Linux.
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@juju said:
...there is an emulator called WINE for running windows apps on Linux.
Google-ing for 'SketchUp Layout Linux' results in quite some posts where people only can start SketchUp with ruby disabled AND Layout doesn't work at all etc... Would be nice if Trimble would release a Linux version some day.
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@kaas said:
Would be nice if Trimble would release a Linux version some day.
that would be first prize!
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Just to inform you...
it seems that these Win 7 updates add some of the Win 10 spy functionality to Win 7 and 8
KB3068708
KB3044374
KB3035583
KB3022345
KB3021917
KB2990214
KB2952664especially KB3068708
To avoid this, do not install them. Or you can remove them if they are already installed.
http://1techlife.blogspot.de/2015/08/windows-7881-might-get-telemetry.html
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/ -
Thak you.
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@numerobis said:
Just to inform you...
it seems that these Win 7 updates add some of the Win 10 spy functionality to Win 7 and 8
KB3068708
KB3044374
KB3035583
KB3022345
KB3021917
KB2990214
KB2952664especially KB3068708
To avoid this, do not install them. Or you can remove them if they are already installed.
http://1techlife.blogspot.de/2015/08/windows-7881-might-get-telemetry.html
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/thank you
maddafakkas
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30 Ways Your Windows 10 Computer Phones Home to Microsoft
http://www.howtogeek.com/224616/30-ways-windows-10-phones-home/ -
@aerilius said:
...Both Layout and SketchUp (6 years) work well for me for daily use...
Are you actually saying here you have both SketchUp and LayOut running without any problems on Linux?
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@numerobis said:
30 Ways Your Windows 10 Computer Phones Home to Microsoft
One chooses what one likes… Choices can evolve or return to what one finds fits best. That's ok.
@kaas said:
Google-ing for 'SketchUp Layout Linux' results in quite some posts where people only can start SketchUp with ruby disabled AND Layout doesn't work at all etc…
Wine is a quickly moving target. What you find on the Internet about Wine is likely to be outdated (because the internet always keeps what it ever had). Most current info can be obtained by from someone who uses it, or by just trying out. The Ruby 2.0 interpreter (which was a problem only in 2014+), has been fixed now for almost a year. Both Layout and SketchUp (6 years) work well for me for daily use. For those who see this as an option, it is available.
However it's unlikely that SketchUp and Trimble ever change their platform strategy, because
- the current SketchUp is a legacy application in maintenance mode, a multi-platform strategy would have required other technology decisions much earlier
- there are too many M** fanboys in the SketchUp team
- platform pluralism and vendor independence play a higher role in european and many non-US countries (Brazil!), which lead to alternatives reach some relevance there (home computers, administrations, schools). Although Trimble once had a series of field computers based on Linux, they are however a rather traditional company and just exploring growing to outside the United States.
It's likely the world and technology changes faster (and turns this demand irrelevant) than that this demand will be met anytime soon. Looking forward to what SketchUp brings in the future!
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I don't use LayOut much, but I can create pages and insert models, annotate, double-click to change the 3d view like in SketchUp, export dwg, pdf, etc. (But it wasn't very stable 1–2 years ago.) The 32bit versions install straight-forward, but the 64bit versions of both are a little tricky at installation.
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Very interesting - I have played around a bit with Linux (Redhat, Suse & Ubuntu) 5+ years ago and decided back then it didn't meet my needs. Much has changed of course so maybe I will have to test again. I have some questions if I may:
- You see any difference in performance between Win & Linux?
- You have some more info / links about the tricky installing of the 64 bit versions?
- Which Linux flavor are you using if I may ask?
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