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[Proto] Generating Terrain from a Cloud of Points

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    fredo6
    last edited by 12 Dec 2014, 08:04

    @arc said:

    see this video
    http://youtu.be/TgFYucpBBKs

    That's what I said. There are specialized application to treat massive volumes of points and generate heightmaps. So handling it in Sketchup is really just a convenience for very simple cases.

    Fredo

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      fredo6
      last edited by 12 Dec 2014, 11:18

      Here are additional pictures

      • one with a Tri-mesh from the Cloud Point
      • the other with a Quadmesh generated from the iso-contours of the tri-mesh terrain
        Rodman100 - survey - SU14.skp

      Fredo

      Rodman100 - Survey 2.png

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        mac1
        last edited by 13 Dec 2014, 01:35

        @fredo6 said:

        @roland joseph said:

        I am saying for me at least generating a terrain with cloud point is not very exciting. It would be selfish to say I would rather a talent like you work on other things. πŸ˜„

        I think that generation of terrain is an essential feature for Sketchup, not to say that making organic shapes from control points can be useful too.
        Actually, this is not something simple to develop in Ruby, because of the lack of efficient algorithms and the variety of topological situation. So nothing straightforward in this plugin project.

        Fredo

        Not by wheel house but using posted point cloud data must be predicated on high confidence the data you are using is "good". Some of the data you have used looks good visually but appears to include several data sets and some of the vertex normals questionable.You cannot tell that by using SU to just look at the data. "....You probably do not need shading so using a mesh built using Voronoi Filtering may be more useful but it needs a very clean data set to work with."
        Ref http://meshlabstuff.blogspot.com/2009/09/meshing-point-clouds.html . I am guessing contacting them they may very well have good test case for you?

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          utiler
          last edited by 13 Dec 2014, 23:56

          This is a super plugin, Fredo! I'll be sure to get it..... πŸŽ‰ πŸŽ‰ πŸŽ‰

          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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            fredo6
            last edited by 16 Dec 2014, 21:45

            @mac1 said:

            Not by wheel house but using posted point cloud data must be predicated on high confidence the data you are using is "good". Some of the data you have used looks good visually but appears to include several data sets and some of the vertex normals questionable.You cannot tell that by using SU to just look at the data. "....You probably do not need shading so using a mesh built using Voronoi Filtering may be more useful but it needs a very clean data set to work with."
            Ref http://meshlabstuff.blogspot.com/2009/09/meshing-point-clouds.html . I am guessing contacting them they may very well have good test case for you?

            Well no intention to mimic a Meshlab that can swallow 9 millions points. Instead my design goal with this plugin is to generate a surface from a few points (say a few tens or hundreds). Therefore, I am more faced to a problem of interpolation than filtering. My question and the reason I wanted to have sample model is to test interpolation algorithms.

            By the way what is exactly Voronoi filtering (The Meshlab demos refers to Poisson disk)?

            I do agree that the original data are important because they do influence the shape. Unfortunately, even if I wrote some part of the script in C, I don't think I can produce an interactive version where you could edit, move and delete points and see instantly the impact on the terrain.

            Fredo

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              mac1
              last edited by 17 Dec 2014, 05:19

              @fredo6 said:

              @mac1 said:

              By the way what is exactly Voronoi filtering (The Meshlab demos refers to Poisson disk)?

              Fredo

              I can not give exact definition but is my understanding is the output is more of an interpolation of the input data rather than a estimation like some of the other filters. The voronoi filter is included in meash lab program and this link is rather interesting and covers how to convert the veronoi shell to a solid suitable for 3 printing http://meshlabstuff.blogspot.com/2009/04/creating-voronoi-sphere-2.html

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