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    Open plan residence, first floor.

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    • I Offline
      Irkie500
      last edited by

      What about a half wall with a breakfast bar to separate the kitchen from the living space? still keeps the open feel, while giving separation from the two spaces.

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      • DanielD Offline
        Daniel
        last edited by

        Nice rendering. The ceiling height looks low for such a large space.

        My avatar is an anachronism.

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        • I Offline
          Irkie500
          last edited by

          I think its just how we perceive the picture with no reference objects to go off of. If you try and imagine a person standing next to the counter it seems to help. I think because it is a WIP that without anything in the space it seems to feel cramped in there surprisingly.

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by

            I'd agree on the ceiling height (low) if that is a counter height over on the right. But until the design is filled out more, who's to say for sure?

            Good work! Looking forward to seeing more WIP!

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            • Mike AmosM Offline
              Mike Amos
              last edited by

              Thanks for the replies, the breakfast bar is taken car of and the ceiling height is 8' so not low at all. I think the large open space gives an illusion of a low ceiling. There will be a lower ceiling for the kitchen breakfast bar area which will have a fireproof screen. I am looking into the idea of a glass display case of some kind to break up the rest of the area so far undesignated.

              Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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              • DanielD Offline
                Daniel
                last edited by

                Mike, that is what I meant by the ceiling too low. Although 8' sounds like a decent ceiling height, and may work functionally, in such a large space it will FEEL lower.

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                • Bryan KB Offline
                  Bryan K
                  last edited by

                  In the US, 9-10ft ceilings are now considered the norm because of the prevalence of open floor plan designs, with 8ft heights being used for 2nd (and sometimes even 1st floor) floor bedroom areas.

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                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                    Mike Amos
                    last edited by

                    Thanks guys, I missed the point you made earlier but thanks for the heads up. Being used to 7' or lower ceilings in the UK I sometimes miss things like that. I suppose the increase in general population height means I have to catch up a bit. A bit confusing to have to think of closing a single space down but open it up at the same time. I will get it in the end.

                    Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                    • RichardR Offline
                      Richard
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                      7' in the UK really? Holy Crap, that would feel like living in a shoe box on side of road and eating cold gravel for breakfast! WOW!!!!

                      8' (2.4m) is minimum required here in Australia. There is a tendency toward 9' (2.7m) where costs permit. One trick I use a lot, as plasterboard sheets come as 1.2m (2.4m / 2) or 1.35m (2.7m / 2) I use a 1.2m plus a 1.35m sheet giving 2.55m. As the two standard heights are 2.4/2.7 the viewer / buyer assumes the ceiling is 2.7m yet the total cost saving over the building footprint is significant eg 2 brick courses across all walls.

                      One has to imagine when standing, the height of a room is perceived as that which is above eye height. Thus even a 6" increase is judged as visually significant.

                      For me anything beyond 9' (2.7m) is actually starting to lose intimacy and human scale (in a home). Easily felt when standing on a balcony. If the balcony is not covered it feels somewhat alien and uncomfortable. Once it has some sort of enclosure above, even if just false work (pergola) we feel more relaxed, secure, less intimidated.

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                      • DanielD Offline
                        Daniel
                        last edited by

                        For me, it's about the proportions of the space and how it feels. My house is small, so the 8' ceilings seem normal, comfortable. But I have been in some large spaces with 8' ceilings, and it felt like the ceiling was pressing down on me.

                        My avatar is an anachronism.

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                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos
                          last edited by

                          well SOMETIMES the gravel is warmed over, a bit.......

                          Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                            tadema
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                            Hello Mike, looking good ๐Ÿ˜„ your modelling/renderings coming on in leaps and bounds.

                            John

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                            • Mike AmosM Offline
                              Mike Amos
                              last edited by

                              Cheers John, getting some good textures helps a lot, limited otherwise.

                              Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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