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    • ppoublanP Offline
      ppoublan
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      @menes said:

      I'm struggling much, because of too much slowness of the Pc, to obtain a similar one. Too much to ask if you could give me directions on the values ​​that you used?
      obtain a so Olive tree with only 12000 faces really could help much.
      thanks in any case

      Here are few tips to improve performance and reduce size of trees with this plugin :

      Tips to reduce tree size :

      • Reduce the number of faces and segments of the tree. It may change a little bit the way the tree looks like, but generaly you will be able to keep the same global look without loosing much quality. Only 3 or even 2 faces are often enough for small branches (branches level 2 or 3).

      • Use leaves with lower number of faces (as the “square” face for example, one quad face = 2 triangle faces only with 4 vertices) and apply png texture

      • You can create you own leaves/flowers with lower number of faces. To do this, draw a tree, open window components, add a leaf from the component list, edit it and change it. (show the hidden geometry if you want to see all the edges of the leaf faces). Hide/soften the edges. This is not mandatory but it gives a better look. Hide also outer loop edges. Save it with a new filename in the subdirectory “leaves” of the tree plugin. You can now use it within your trees

      Tips to improve performance issues

      • Disable shadows, fog, profiles of edge styles and complex styles
      • Close the outliner window (do not ask me why, but its true!)
      • Disable plugins that add component or entities observers (they will add additional time at every tree draw). It s for example the case for the Eneroth railroad. (do not remove the plugin, I’m a big fan of it, just turn it off when drawing the trees)
      • Use the proxies features :
      • Turn all trees to proxies before saving your model, you will drastically reduce the Sketchup file size.
      • Work with trees in proxy mode when you are working on other parts of your model
      • Turn all trees to full draw only when you need to render or capture your final image

      Hope this helps.
      Yours
      Pascal

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        ijmccoy
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        superb plugin, is there a guide for it at all?

        also with the model im working on at the moment whenever i try to render the leaves disapear and ive no idea why, any help would be great

        Ian

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        • ppoublanP Offline
          ppoublan
          last edited by

          @ijmccoy said:

          is there a guide for it at all?

          Not yet, but I'm working on it... will publish it as soon as available.

          @ijmccoy said:

          whenever i try to render the leaves disapear and ive no idea why, any help would be great

          Which render do you use ?

          i've made tests with Octane, Thea, Kerkytea. I could try with your render with evaluation version.
          I know some issues with the renders I tested but with good results.

          yours
          Pascal

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            pibuz
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            Hi Pascal! I'm an architecture visualizer and I really really think your plugin is wonderful! Finally a serious and versatile tree generator inside SketchUp!
            I especially like the "render proxy" feature: extremely useful when working with big and complex scenes.
            Speaking of which, I have a little request for you: I work with Indigo Renderer, and it also supports a proxy system to substitute complex models with lighter ones. You only need to apply the suffix "_dummy" to the desired proxy which will be exported and rendered as the original component (eg. "tree" and corresponding proxy "tree_dummy").
            So first thing I did was checking the components window and see what happens when I convert one of your trees to a proxy: I saw nothing happens.

            The thing I'd like to ask you is if it's possible for you to add an option to save the dummy proxy to the components list, and maybe name it automatically "name"_dummy so that Indigo Renderer can recognize and export the complex tree model without having to re-render it (and make the SU scene heavy).

            Thank you very much in advance!

            WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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              ijmccoy
              last edited by

              @ppoublan said:

              @ijmccoy said:

              is there a guide for it at all?

              Not yet, but I'm working on it... will publish it as soon as available.

              @ijmccoy said:

              whenever i try to render the leaves disapear and ive no idea why, any help would be great

              Which render do you use ?

              i've made tests with Octane, Thea, Kerkytea. I could try with your render with evaluation version.
              I know some issues with the renders I tested but with good results.

              yours
              Pascal

              using vray for sketchup. if i put a single tree in a model on its own it renders with the leaves but in the model ive just added trees to, they all render without leaves

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              • ppoublanP Offline
                ppoublan
                last edited by

                @ijmccoy said:

                using vray for sketchup. if i put a single tree in a model on its own it renders with the leaves but in the model ive just added trees to, they all render without leaves

                Hi,
                Does this only appears with some trees ? in this case which one ? Could you post one example.
                In any case there are two issues I know with many renders :

                • incorrect handling of colorized textures
                • incorrect handling of UVs textures when material is applied to a parent group, not to the faces.

                Here is an example :

                uvfix_avant.jpg

                I'm not sure if you are in this case, but if you used trees with PNG textures, due to the render error on UVs, leaves may disappear because of the transparency part of their texture is not correctly placed.

                So I made a small script to fix it for trees.

                uvfix_apres.jpg

                Could you test it and let me know if it works in your case.
                3darcstudiotools.rbz
                install the extension
                before rendering : use the menu 3DArcStudio>Tools>Fix Leaves textures...

                Yours
                Pascal

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                • ppoublanP Offline
                  ppoublan
                  last edited by

                  @pibuz said:

                  Speaking of which, I have a little request for you: I work with Indigo Renderer, and it also supports a proxy system to substitute complex models with lighter ones. You only need to apply the suffix "_dummy" to the desired proxy which will be exported and rendered as the original component (eg. "tree" and corresponding proxy "tree_dummy").
                  So first thing I did was checking the components window and see what happens when I convert one of your trees to a proxy: I saw nothing happens.

                  The thing I'd like to ask you is if it's possible for you to add an option to save the dummy proxy to the components list, and maybe name it automatically "name"_dummy so that Indigo Renderer can recognize and export the complex tree model without having to re-render it (and make the SU scene heavy).

                  As there is no standard method defined within Sketchup to manage proxies/ghosts, each plugin and render defined its own method. So the problem is they are not designed to interoperate 😞

                  By the way this is maybe a good idea for a future Sketchup version to have a standard proxy/ghost management integrated. Maybe Chriss Fullmer is listening 💭 ?

                  In this particular case, from what you say, this could be the way to achieve it :

                  • Create a tree, displayed in full mode
                  • Add a second tree of the same type
                  • You will be asked by TreeMaker if you want to add copies of existing tree or create a new component : answer No to create a new component

                  You now have two trees that looks the same but each has its own component definition.

                  Take one of them, rename its definition name to “…_dummy”.
                  You can now convert it to proxy (right click, change to proxy), and let the other one with full draw.
                  Place some copies of the _dummy in the model
                  Hide the other one in order for it not being rendered.

                  Test the render.

                  Let me know if it works. If yes I can see how to integrate this operation into the code to ease the process.

                  Yours
                  Pascal

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                  • OxerO Offline
                    Oxer
                    last edited by

                    Hi Pascal,
                    I use Thea4SU plugin and the problem with the leaves textures exists ( bad UVs leaves in renders) but I have installed the Tools Script and the problem is fixed now. 👍

                    Before Use Fix Textures Leaves

                    After Use Fix Textures Leaves

                    Another question, when I create a tree in a blank sketchup file, new components appear in the Componentes Window, see the image below:

                    New Components.jpg

                    but when I use Fix Texture Leaves Tool those components disappear, is that correct?

                    "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                    [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                      ijmccoy
                      last edited by

                      @ppoublan said:

                      @ijmccoy said:

                      using vray for sketchup. if i put a single tree in a model on its own it renders with the leaves but in the model ive just added trees to, they all render without leaves

                      Hi,
                      Does this only appears with some trees ? in this case which one ? Could you post one example.
                      In any case there are two issues I know with many renders :

                      • incorrect handling of colorized textures
                      • incorrect handling of UVs textures when material is applied to a parent group, not to the faces.

                      Here is an example :

                      [attachment=2:27t53w9y]<!-- ia2 -->uvfix_avant.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:27t53w9y]

                      I'm not sure if you are in this case, but if you used trees with PNG textures, due to the render error on UVs, leaves may disappear because of the transparency part of their texture is not correctly placed.

                      So I made a small script to fix it for trees.

                      [attachment=1:27t53w9y]<!-- ia1 -->uvfix_apres.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:27t53w9y]

                      Could you test it and let me know if it works in your case.
                      [attachment=0:27t53w9y]<!-- ia0 -->3darcstudiotools.rbz<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:27t53w9y]
                      install the extension
                      before rendering : use the menu 3DArcStudio>Tools>Fix Leaves textures...

                      Yours
                      Pascal

                      Tried the above but still coming out the same, really dont understand it as it works if i start a new sketchup file. Its the same for all trees as well not just 1 type

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                        pibuz
                        last edited by

                        I tested the tool too, and I confirm that this fixed the error (rendering with Indigo Renderer). In sketchUp - like Oxer - I never had any texture issues, BTW.

                        WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                        • ppoublanP Offline
                          ppoublan
                          last edited by

                          @oxer said:

                          Hi Pascal,
                          Another question, when I create a tree in a blank sketchup file, new components appear in the Componentes Window, see the image below:
                          [attachment=0:2zktr2wd]<!-- ia0 -->New Components.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2zktr2wd]
                          but when I use Fix Texture Leaves Tool those components disappear, is that correct?

                          Hi oxer,

                          From what I can see I think all these components are created or loaded by LightUp for Sketchup.
                          I think it adds them to the model when a tree is drawn just bucause this plugin adds model or components or materials observers and add its own component when one of this list is changed.

                          They disappears because in Tree Maker and I purge unused materials and unused components.

                          Yours
                          pascal

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                          • ppoublanP Offline
                            ppoublan
                            last edited by

                            @pibuz said:

                            I tested the tool too, and I confirm that this fixed the error (rendering with Indigo Renderer). In sketchUp - like Oxer - I never had any texture issues, BTW.

                            Did you try the proposed method to render proxies with Indigo ? Let me know if it works, so I can see how to make it "scripted automaticaly" into the plugin.
                            pascal

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                            • ppoublanP Offline
                              ppoublan
                              last edited by

                              @ijmccoy said:

                              it works if i start a new sketchup file. Its the same for all trees as well not just 1 type

                              Made some tests with vRay without pb. I dont know much about how vray is working. If the problem occurs only on existing SU file, there maybe an issue with cache. Found this option you could try : "Clear folder texture cache"
                              testvray03.jpg

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                              • OxerO Offline
                                Oxer
                                last edited by

                                @ppoublan said:

                                Hi oxer,

                                From what I can see I think all these components are created or loaded by LightUp for Sketchup.
                                I think it adds them to the model when a tree is drawn just bucause this plugin adds model or components or materials observers and add its own component when one of this list is changed.

                                They disappears because in Tree Maker and I purge unused materials and unused components.

                                Yours
                                pascal

                                The the funny thing is that I haven't installed LightUp, for this reason I don't know why these components are created when you place a new tree, perhaps another plugin is the guilty. ❓

                                EDIT: I have seen in Components Window >Edition the path for these Components --> C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Tools/lightup/components/pointlight-v1.6.skp
                                I work on Mac and this path in OS X doesn't exist.

                                "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                • ppoublanP Offline
                                  ppoublan
                                  last edited by

                                  @oxer said:

                                  The the funny thing is that I haven't installed LightUp, for this reason I don't know why these components are created when you place a new tree, perhaps another plugin is the guilty. ❓

                                  EDIT: I have seen in Components Window >Edition the path for these Components --> C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Tools/lightup/components/pointlight-v1.6.skp
                                  I work on Mac and this path in OS X doesn't exist.

                                  Sketchup UFO mysteries 😄
                                  Maybe I left some unpurged components with some leaves components definitions. Need to load all one by one to test...

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                                  • OxerO Offline
                                    Oxer
                                    last edited by

                                    @ppoublan said:

                                    Sketchup UFO mysteries 😄
                                    Maybe I left some unpurged components with some leaves components definitions. Need to load all one by one to test...

                                    😄 Yes, that is the error, leaves components files unpurged 👍

                                    "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                    [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                    • ppoublanP Offline
                                      ppoublan
                                      last edited by

                                      "never let a bug, Oxer will point it"
                                      Added to the todo list.

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                                      • OxerO Offline
                                        Oxer
                                        last edited by

                                        😄 😄 😄 😄 It's my problem I'm very perfectionist. 😆
                                        See the flower13 it has another layers too.

                                        "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                        [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                          Tubeman55
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi there,
                                          I am looking for a talented power user of 3D Tree Maker who can support me with creating some trees and plants for professional use. I am willing to spend some dollars for your effort.
                                          Please drop me a line if you are intested and give me some background information about you.

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                                            lema
                                            last edited by

                                            Tell me how to make a dense and clipping like this:

                                            http://shkolazhizni.ru/img/content/i112/112798_or.jpg

                                            http://voodland.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/acer-platanoidies-globosum1.jpg

                                            Inside the leaves do not want to not load.

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