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    massimo Moderator
    last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 18:45

    @unknownuser said:

    The radius changes the position of the sun,

    Odd, that should not happen. Would you mind to post the scene?

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      olishea
      last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 18:47

      larger radius does not change the sun position. Large radius = softer shadows. Small radius = sharper shadows. You must have soft shadows checked to see the effect of changing the sun's radius.

      I really love how this project is going, I find plan shadow studies very pleasing on the eye.

      oli

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        alexjo
        last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 18:55

        Sure.


        Scene3.rar

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          massimo Moderator
          last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 19:34

          Ok, here is a try. Raw KT output.
          Of course, as I said before, you can change the softness of the shadows by changing the radius of the sun.
          scene_3.jpg
          scene_3.zip

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            alexjo
            last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 20:51

            Legit amazing.

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              alexjo
              last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 21:21

              Could you pleas tell me how you managed to achieve that clear white look ?

              & I see you have arranged the file, and added other elements.

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                massimo Moderator
                last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 21:32

                Well I've posted the scene, have a look at it. The render is a raw output of that scene, so just pick a clay render preset (I think I've used the 22 if I remember well, but more or less any clay preset will work) and render it. I added nothing, just tuned sun's multiplier and radius.

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                  massimo Moderator
                  last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 21:40

                  Oh and, if i remember well, also reduced the gamma from 1.5 to 1.2. Anyway you have the scene to look at.

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                    alexjo
                    last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 21:41

                    @massimo said:

                    Well I've posted the scene, have a look at it. The render is a raw output of that scene, so just pick a clay render preset (I think I've used the 22 if I remember well, but more or less any clay preset will work) and render it. I added nothing, just tuned sun's multiplier and radius.

                    Much appreciated, sir.

                    Have a nice day.

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                      massimo Moderator
                      last edited by 30 Aug 2014, 21:44

                      My pleasure. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                        massimo Moderator
                        last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 09:05

                        Here is another quick try using a HDRI for lighting. Perhaps more similar to the reference image you posted. The "direction" of light is less clear and you have less control on it and shadows are really soft, but the overall effect is pretty effective I believe. Only a slight levels correction in post pro.
                        hdr.jpg

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                          alexjo
                          last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 17:03

                          Yes, this looks even better and less sharp.

                          Especially if you are going to place furniture and other data on the plans.

                          Could I please know what HDRI you used on this ?

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                            massimo Moderator
                            last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 17:20

                            You can find it here . Scroll down the page, it's called "van Kleef 3". I have made a black&white version of it. Also when you use a HDRI in KT is better to switch off "linear lightflow". In KT go to settings-->advanced-->scenes-->"you scene name"-->default global settings-->right click on the green thumbnail.
                            Cattura.JPG
                            You may need to boost the HDRI intensity.

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                              alexjo
                              last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 19:15

                              Thanks, but what does switching it off do ?

                              This is what I get :

                              http://i.minus.com/jbqupjvAdbexvy.jpg

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                                alexjo
                                last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 19:16

                                Could you upload the last update you made please ?

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                                  massimo Moderator
                                  last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 19:28

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  what does switching it off do ?

                                  Basically it has to do with gamma setting of the HDRI: if HDRI has gamma correction set to 2.2 (most of them are that way) you should turn it off. If gamma is set to 1.0 the it has to be turned on. Just try to render with it turned on and off and see what happens.

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Could you upload the last update you made please ?

                                  If you mean the scene with the HDRI then I can't because I deleted it. Anyway you have all the infos to reproduce it I guess. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                    alexjo
                                    last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 19:37

                                    Oh, I see.

                                    Yepp, I'm still baffled about the sun jumping from its place when i change the radius tho.

                                    http://i.minus.com/joVOgGF5cV2bF.jpg

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                                      alexjo
                                      last edited by 31 Aug 2014, 23:16

                                      I was also wondering, how yours looks more "Black & white" ?

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                                        massimo Moderator
                                        last edited by 1 Sept 2014, 08:42

                                        Be sure you don't have any color for sun/sky/HDRI. Also if you use the HDRI be sure to disable the sun.

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