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    • HieruH Offline
      Hieru
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      @jman0war said:

      Sure, but you have to export the model.
      That's exactly the step i'm looking to omit.

      The exporting mentioned on the Thea for Sketchup page is simply an option to export to Thea Studio.

      There is no need to export and you can use Thea without leaving Sketchup - just as you can with Vray, Twighlight or the other integrated rendering software.

      www.davidhier.co.uk

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      • J Offline
        jman0war
        last edited by

        Really?
        I did not pick up on that when I browsed their website.
        The renders look great.

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        • J Offline
          jman0war
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          @krisidious said:

          Are any of them truly, actually inside sketchup? What's the problem with exporting? are you on freemake?

          The problem with exporting is that I get people looking at a render and then wanting additional changes.
          Changes that require going back into Sketchup and then having to re-export.

          So a solution whereby I can do it all in SU would be best for me.

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @jman0war said:

            The problem with exporting is that I get people looking at a render and then wanting additional changes.
            Changes that require going back into Sketchup and then having to re-export.

            So a solution whereby I can do it all in SU would be best for me.

            maybe look at maxwell for sketchup

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            they offer a free version then the licensed version is $99

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
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              What renderers do two point perspective and orthagonal views (for Mac --not iRender)?

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                @pbacot said:

                What renderers do two point perspective and orthagonal views (for Mac --not iRender)?

                Indigo

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                [edit- i'm not saying indigo is the only one that will do it on mac.. just the only one i personally know of that will]


                perspective.jpg

                2pt.jpg

                parallel.jpg

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                • HieruH Offline
                  Hieru
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                  @jman0war said:

                  Really?
                  I did not pick up on that when I browsed their website.
                  The renders look great.

                  Check out these videos for an idea of how Thea works inside Sketchup:

                  www.davidhier.co.uk

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
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                    One big up for Thea for Sketchup is it does animation and sections.

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • J Offline
                      jman0war
                      last edited by

                      Wow!
                      It reminds me of Vue in certain ways.

                      They're placing 3D trees in SU and it's showing the render window in real-time.
                      What Thea product is that?

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
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                        @jman0war said:

                        Wow!
                        It reminds me of Vue in certain ways.

                        They're placing 3D trees in SU and it's showing the render window in real-time.
                        What Thea product is that?

                        That is Thea4SU fully integrated.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          @jeff hammond said:

                          @pbacot said:

                          What renderers do two point perspective and orthagonal views (for Mac --not iRender)?

                          Indigo

                          .
                          [edit- i'm not saying indigo is the only one that will do it on mac.. just the only one i personally know of that will]


                          Thanks. I demoed Indigo some. Easy to get good artificial lighting compared to some, but seemed like more work and I guess the engine is slower by its very nature. I'd love to use some rendered elevations AND have 2 point perspectives.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • HieruH Offline
                            Hieru
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                            @krisidious said:

                            Yeah, I'm talking about Thea Presto, not Thea standalone.

                            It's all the same thing.

                            Thea standalone (studio) is the rendering software you buy, which includes Presto as one of the various render options. You then need the Thea4SU plugin to use Thea inside SU (including the GPU+CPU Presto option).

                            www.davidhier.co.uk

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              Yeah that's why I asked aren't they all kinda in and out of SU... I mean even the one's you don't export are still kinda using exterior software and or resources.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • HieruH Offline
                                Hieru
                                last edited by

                                @krisidious said:

                                Yeah that's why I asked aren't they all kinda in and out of SU... I mean even the one's you don't export are still kinda using exterior software and or resources.

                                Sure, but you don't exactly want to be limited by what you can do fully inside SU. The great thing about Thea and Vray is that you can get around SU's limitations and leverage the power of the standalone rendering software. For example, using proxies for high-poly models (especially vegetation) is something I couldn't live without.

                                www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                  notareal
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                                  @jman0war said:

                                  Really?
                                  I did not pick up on that when I browsed their website.
                                  The renders look great.

                                  All Thea Render live-plugins do work inside the modelling app; Thea for sketchup. Naturally you can use the studio too if some particular scene needs that.

                                  Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
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                                    @hieru said:

                                    @krisidious said:

                                    Yeah that's why I asked aren't they all kinda in and out of SU... I mean even the one's you don't export are still kinda using exterior software and or resources.

                                    Sure, but you don't exactly want to be limited by what you can do fully inside SU. The great thing about Thea and Vray is that you can get around SU's limitations and leverage the power of the standalone rendering software. For example, using proxies for high-poly models (especially vegetation) is something I couldn't live without.

                                    Yeah, best of both worlds... I want it but just can't afford that price tag when I don't even do any renders for people.

                                    Also to the OP Revizto is an external render/walk through program and it recognizes changes made in SU back and forth. Their quality of renderings doesn't really rank with some of those you've been talking about. But for price and speed I really like it.

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                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      arail1
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                                      @jeff hammond said:

                                      @pbacot said:

                                      What renderers do two point perspective and orthagonal views (for Mac --not iRender)?

                                      Indigo

                                      .
                                      [edit- i'm not saying indigo is the only one that will do it on mac.. just the only one i personally know of that will]


                                      I didn't know that. I have a demo version that I haven't played with much. I don't like the 'Frankenstein' quality of some of my drawing sets - a couple pages of renderings, a couple pages of Layout 3D views with labels and text and a couple pages of 2D drafting for technical details. I'd love to be able to do some orthographic work that corresponded more coherently with the rendering section. I could add labels and text in Illustrator. Unfortunately I've already invested significant $$ in V-Ray SketchUP and V-Ray Rhino but it's something I'd like to know more about.

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
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                                        ^

                                        yep, the orthographic camera was included in the 3.4 release which was just over a year ago.. the same release also added support for section planes which is a good one to have (for me at least) in combination with parallel views.

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                                          andybot
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                                          @arail1 said:

                                          I'd love to be able to do some orthographic work that corresponded more coherently with the rendering section. I could add labels and text in Illustrator. Unfortunately I've already invested significant $$ in V-Ray SketchUP and V-Ray Rhino but it's something I'd like to know more about.

                                          You can do ortho projection with vray for su. When you turn off the physical camera, it's possible to render ortho.

                                          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                          • arail1A Offline
                                            arail1
                                            last edited by

                                            @andybot said:

                                            @arail1 said:

                                            I'd love to be able to do some orthographic work that corresponded more coherently with the rendering section. I could add labels and text in Illustrator. Unfortunately I've already invested significant $$ in V-Ray SketchUP and V-Ray Rhino but it's something I'd like to know more about.

                                            You can do ortho projection with vray for su. When you turn off the physical camera, it's possible to render ortho.

                                            Thanks for that tip

                                            I've tried that in the past with V-Ray but haven't explored the option much because I'm using the physical camera to adjust the brightness of the scene. Turning physical camera off requires resetting other variables to get a similar look and that's not an easy thing for me to do. I just tried this with my demo copy of Indigo and it's exactly the same scene, just in ortho rather than perspective. I'm sure someone with more experience than I have with V-Ray could do this easily but I find that I end up with two very different looking images.

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