[Plugin] RichSection V0.5.8 UPDATED march 2015

pgarmyn · 26 Feb 2014, 18:22

It just does not work to me, i create the section but the paremeters do not appear, not even by using the paremeters icon

any advice? i use skp 2013

MAC ore Windows, apparently, ther is a compatibility problem with MAC
If Windows :
Did you creates the section with the most left icon ?
Open the ruby panel. Are ther any error messages ?
If your PC is slow, wait for the creation of the views (do not use the mousebuttons until done).

rombout · 26 Feb 2014, 19:13

Tried the solution for the mac verion with a direct copy of the plugin to the folder. i get this error

 RS;licensefile found  ; /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/PiGa_RichSection/RichSectionLicense.rb
(eval); warning >> is not an error but a "normal" ruby message
RS;1 ; # RichSection License File for DEMO ; Time limited ; works until 1 june 2014
RS;2 ; # Do not change this file
RS;3 ; @@rsLic[;RScomp]='any'
RS;4 ; @@rsLic[;RSmacAdr]='any'
RS;5 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicV]='any'
RS;6 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicDate]='1401580800'#Time.gm(2014,06,1).to_i.to_s#1396310400#
RS;7 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicType]='DEMO, valid until 2014-06-01'
RS;8 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicToName]='any'
RS;9 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicToMail]='any'
RS;10 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicKey1]='Key1ForDemoLicenseUntil-2014-06-01'
RS;11 ; @@rsLic[;RSsoftlicKey2]='2n0xikomxzl8lnh357rruykadaq0q0c3g1b5e9k4i987ji42lbru3'
RS;12 ; # Do not change this fil
Error; #<TypeError; can't convert nil into String>
(eval);917;in `+'
(eval);917;in `l_ctrl'
(eval);1466;in `createRichSectionTool'
(eval);4353;in `require'

solo · 26 Feb 2014, 19:55

@jeff hammond said:

@pgarmyn said:

YES
Parameters for "cut color the same as the object" :

Set 'RichSection material name' to "prefix+materialname, default"

Set 'RichSection materials, prefix' to "" (empty)

neat.
i tried a quick one in indigo with glass, metal, and wood..

[attachment=0:1ylc6qf1]section3.jpg[/attachment:1ylc6qf1]

i didn't let it render as long as it would need but it shows that it would work in an actual render..

glass- one solid sphere (rendered as a solid piece of glass)
metal- sphere inside a sphere (rendered as if it were a bowl)
wood- i resized the texture on the facing side.. the cut shows the original size.. probably not good to use this technique on renders requiring high quality texturing/mapping (as in- that block would require end grain etc.)

Good news for Thea users, Tomasz has been made aware of this and will support this in an upcoming release.

driven · 26 Feb 2014, 22:04

@Piet

` > Sketchup.version_number < 8000999
false

Sketchup.version_number
8000999`

your excluding v8 on mac...

john

tt_su · 26 Feb 2014, 23:10

@driven said:

@Piet

` > Sketchup.version_number < 8000999
false

Sketchup.version_number
8000999`

your excluding v8 on mac...

john

Sketchup.version_number doesn't work that well with the recent version number scheme of SketchUp. It's better to parse Sketchup.version.

pgarmyn · 27 Feb 2014, 11:14

@tt_su
Thanks x 1000, i will correct that this evening, to get it working for Mac.
But it's not the only conflict in my code.
My Mac experience is quite limited, actually zero.
Maybee we must start a Post listing all restrictions and problems in relation to Mac, Windows, ....?

pgarmyn · 27 Feb 2014, 13:04

@rombout said:

Tried the solution ....

Dank U, meneer Rombout.
I know, I will work on it as soon as i can.
Sorry for the inconveniance....

pgarmyn · 27 Feb 2014, 13:05

@rombout said:

Tried the solution ....

Dank U, meneer Rombout.
I know, I will work on it as soon as i can.
Sorry for the inconveniance....

davecoopstl · 27 Feb 2014, 16:31

pgarmyn -

I was using RichSection all week, and then it suddenly stopped working. I think I MAY have updated it recently, though.

By stop working, I mean it totally stopped working, as others have described above: I couldn't Add a RichSection, Edit Parameters, Edit Settings, nothing...

In any case, I discovered what was wrong, by looking at the Ruby Console when running the plugging.

It seems that your PlugIn suddenly needs Full Read/Write permissions to the C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2013\Materials folder.

I did not have this, and I had to navigate to this folder in Windows Explorer, and give myself Full Read/Write Permissions to the Materials folder. Much the same way I had to give myself Full Read/Write Permissions to the Plugins Folder after I installed SU2013, so the Sketchucation Store could install PlugIns.

Once I gave myself Full Read/Write Permissions to the SketchUp 2013/Materials folder, RichSection started working again!

It's a fantastic PlugIn, with an amazing array of options, and a huge time-saver.

If you changed something in the last update, you might want to look at it closer.

Hope this helps you, and anyone else who updated and stopped being able to run RichSection.

Thanks.
Dave.

davecoopstl · 27 Feb 2014, 16:44

pgarmyn -

After getting RichSection working again (SEE ABOVE POST), I now only have the #Default Material available to use.

I do NOThave any of the other great section hatch materials that you provide with the PlugIn.

I'm guessing the new path to the ...SketchUp 2013\Materials folder has something to do with this.

Hopefully this helps you troubleshoot the issues.

Thanks.
Dave.

pgarmyn · 27 Feb 2014, 20:41

@davecoopstl said:

pgarmyn -

After getting RichSection working again (SEE ABOVE POST), I now only have the #Default Material available to use ….

At creation of the first RichSection, the code will load the default Library in your drawing, wich is by default (if not changed in RichSection/Settings) : materials/RichSection/RS_V0/#default.mat.skp, containing only one material : #default,
The other materials (17 files with skm extension) are copied to the same directory and can be selected in the Materials Window (/RichSection/RS_V0). The ruby code needs write permissions for these directorys. I will have to put some warning message if this is not the case.

For the previous version there were people complaining they didn't asked for all those materials. If you want to load all materials at first RS creation, then replace the value Settings >> RichSection materials to load... : “materials/RichSection/RS_V0/#default.mat.skp” by “materials/RichSection/RS_V0/RS_V0_14.mat.skp”. Do not misspell, the value isn't changed if path/file don't exist. The materials are only loaded if the default material doesn't exist in your model (Settings >> Proposed default RS material). You can rename the default material in your model to reload the material(s) at the next RichSection creation or update. You can always go back to the default values (Plugins>>RichSection>>Reset Settings)

THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITH MAC
MAC USERS, PLEASE WAIT :
IS THERE SOME MAC-VOLUNTEER TO HELP WITH SOME TESTING

davecoopstl · 27 Feb 2014, 20:57

I understand all that. The problem is that, BEFORE the latest update, you did NOT require Full Read/Write Permissions to the SketchUp 2013\Materials Folder.

With the latest update, you changed that. So now you DO require Full Read/Write access to the SketchUp 2013\Materials folder. And a lot of users do NOT have these Permissions by Default.

This is the reason the PlugIn 'stopped working' for many.

Either you need to go back to the old way it functioned before the update, or very careful explain to people when they are running the PlugIn what Permissions they need to change, to what folder, and how.

Just a suggestion.
Dave.

bimbachi · 27 Feb 2014, 22:20

@pgarmyn said:

@davecoopstl said:

pgarmyn -

THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITH MAC
MAC USERS, PLEASE WAIT :
IS THERE SOME MAC-VOLUNTEER TO HELP WITH SOME TESTING

I dont have ruby knowlege, but as user testing , I can give a try.
I'm using skp pro version 8 only with a lot of addons so conflict with other plugs is possibul.
However sketchucation store plug alows to do some limted sets if needed.

pgarmyn · 27 Feb 2014, 22:56

@Bimbachi
Maybee i will have some code to test saterday (before publishing)
I will PM ....
thanks

bimbachi · 27 Feb 2014, 23:38

@pgarmyn said:

@Bimbachi
Maybee i will have some code to test saterday (before publishing)
I will PM ....
thanks

Ok

Technohippy · 28 Feb 2014, 12:35

This is just great. Got it working by fiddling with the folder permissions, thanks for this

davecoopstl · 28 Feb 2014, 14:29

@Technohippy - Did you have to change the Permissions to the ...SketchUp 2013\Materials folder? Or somewhere else?

I'm about to install RichSection on another user's computer, and I'm trying to figure out what to expect.

Let us know.
Dave.

Technohippy · 28 Feb 2014, 14:33

@davecoopstl said:

@Technohippy - Did you have to change the Permissions to the ...SketchUp 2013\Materials folder? Or somewhere else?

I'm about to install RichSection on another user's computer, and I'm trying to figure out what to expect.

Let us know.
Dave.

I just changed the permissions for the whole sketchup folder and made sure The user profile as well as the admin was set to full control.

Using windows 8 and sketchup 2013

davecoopstl · 28 Feb 2014, 15:18

@pgarmyn

I've been using the newest update to RichSection, and I read your post about the new way to use Materials.

While I understand why you did it this way (to prevent materials for automatically loading into the model), I have to say that it is a bit confusing and un-intuitive. If I want to change a Section Material, I have to navigate to the Material folder in the Materials dialogue box, pick the material, Right-Click, and Add it to the model. THEN, go back to RichSection, and choose it from the available list of Materials. And I have to repeat this for each Material I want to try out.

And the option in the RichSection Settings to change the Default Material to load your RS_VO_14.mat.skp (to get ALL of your custom Section Materials) is a good solution. However, maybe you could add the path to "materials/RichSection/RS_V0/RS_V0_14.mat.skp" in a pull-down menu in the Settings. Otherwise, I have to figure out that path EVERY time I want to load all the materials.

And perhaps there could be an option to make that path the Default, for those users that DO want to load all of your Section Materials every time, so I don't have to change that setting on each new model.

It's great to have all your custom materials to choose from. It just needs to be easier to load them up and try them out.

Just a suggestion.
Dave.

pgarmyn · 28 Feb 2014, 16:09

@davecoopstl and others

There is an error for loading an other Library than the default.
Sorry, i have to work on it....