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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
      last edited by

      If it is due to different graphics cards, then it has to do with how different graphics cards treat retina, because the same dialogs on another "regular" monitor (same computer) look fine. So that would make it really convoluted, Apple providing different graphics card solutions for retina.

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
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        I get the following message when I try start ThruPaint


        Screen Shot 2014-01-28 at 9.27.03 AM.png

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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          slbaumgartner
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          @fredo6 said:

          I made a change to offer the possibility to scale up the button palettes (by a factor 2).

          ONLY FOR RETINA USERS
          Would you be be kind to

          1. Drop the attached file Lib6Palette.rb into the Fredo6_!LibFredo6 subfolder
            [attachment=1:1g1qxvfs]<!-- ia1 -->Lib6Palette.rb<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1g1qxvfs]

          2. Go to Windows > LibFredo6 Settings... and set the Retina Screen parameter to true (it is at the bottom of the dialog)

          3. Check with my plugins if the display has improved.

          4. If possible, post some screenshots so that I can see visually what is going on.

          @oli_sketch: I still don't understand why you get tiny text whereas other Retina users get normal text size

          Thanks very much

          Fredo

          Here's a screenshot. As you can see, this affected the button graphics, but not the text. BTW, different models of MacBook Pro Retina have used different GPU chips. In theory at least, that could cause some low-level variations from Mac to Mac...


          Screen Shot 2014-01-28 at 12.42.24 PM.png

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
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            @pbacot said:

            I get the following message when I try start ThruPaint

            Could you upgrade to libfredo6 5.5g and FredoTools 1.6g

            Fredo

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
              last edited by

              @fredo6 said:

              @pbacot said:

              I get the following message when I try start ThruPaint

              Could you upgrade to libfredo6 5.5g and FredoTools 1.6g

              Fredo

              I upgraded the above and that removed the error message. I then copied the Lib6Palette.rb at the location shown. Restarted SU. The Thrupaint toolbar does look not any different than before.


              Screen Shot 2014-01-28 at 10.21.50 AM.png

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                @pbacot said:

                @fredo6 said:

                @pbacot said:

                I get the following message when I try start ThruPaint

                Could you upgrade to libfredo6 5.5g and FredoTools 1.6g

                Fredo

                I upgraded the above and that removed the error message. I then copied the Lib6Palette.rb at the location shown. Restarted SU. The Thrupaint toolbar does look not any different than before.

                Did you go to the default parameters and check the flag for Retina?

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  @slbaumgartner said:

                  Here's a screenshot. As you can see, this affected the button graphics, but not the text. BTW, different models of MacBook Pro Retina have used different GPU chips. In theory at least, that could cause some low-level variations from Mac to Mac...

                  I can't do anything for the text from the Ruby side. There is no API for that and apparently the setup of text size in Model Info [Text section] does not do anything for the text drawn from Ruby.

                  But since some Retina users get the text in 'normal' size, there may be a way for you to get it as well by playing with some settings. If this is a matter of graphical card or driver, then I am afraid we'll have to wait for the SU Team to address the problem.

                  Anyway, I guess this is already a progress to get the buttons bigger, even if the text remains tiny.

                  What I need now to do is to make the change for some other graphical elements like the Visual Progress bars, the custom tooltips and some other decoration.

                  Fredo

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    @fredo6 said:

                    @pbacot said:

                    @fredo6 said:

                    @pbacot said:

                    I get the following message when I try start ThruPaint

                    Could you upgrade to libfredo6 5.5g and FredoTools 1.6g

                    Fredo

                    I upgraded the above and that removed the error message. I then copied the Lib6Palette.rb at the location shown. Restarted SU. The Thrupaint toolbar does look not any different than before.

                    Did you go to the default parameters and check the flag for Retina?

                    Doh! Didn't do that!. But I can't find it now. Peter

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      oli_sketch
                      last edited by

                      Dear Fredo,

                      Can you help me?

                      .-oli


                      Captura de pantalla 2014-01-28 a la(s) 21.16.14.png

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @oli_sketch said:

                        Dear Fredo,

                        Can you help me?

                        .-oli

                        Sorry, I should have said it. Please upgrade to LibFredo6 5.5g before and then copy the Lib6Palette.rb file.

                        Do not forget to turn on the flag about Retina Screen in the LibFredo6 Default Parameters.

                        Fredo

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                          oli_sketch
                          last edited by

                          Hi Fredo,

                          I have installed the 5.6g lib but the same problem appears....

                          thanks.


                          Captura de pantalla 2014-01-28 a la(s) 23.08.16.png


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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            Oli,

                            I realized that on Sketchup 8, there is a problem. So here is a corrected version. Sorry for that.
                            Lib6Palette.rb

                            Fredo

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              I made a change to offer the possibility to scale up the button palettes (by a factor 2).

                              ONLY FOR RETINA USERS
                              Would you be be kind to

                              1. Drop the attached file Lib6Palette.rb into the Fredo6_!LibFredo6 subfolder
                                Lib6Palette.rb

                              2. Go to Windows > LibFredo6 Settings... and set the Retina Screen parameter to true (it is at the bottom of the dialog)

                              3. Check with my plugins if the display has improved.

                              4. If possible, post some screenshots so that I can see visually what is going on.

                              @oli_sketch: I still don't understand why you get tiny text whereas other Retina users get normal text size

                              Thanks very much

                              Fredo

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                                oli_sketch
                                last edited by

                                Hi Fredo,

                                I´ve installed your file and SU 2013 open it without problems.

                                I show you some screenshots.

                                Thanks.


                                Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 23.00.36.jpg


                                Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 23.00.16.jpg


                                Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 22.59.58.jpg

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                                  oli_sketch
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Again,

                                  Sorry, I´ve selected Retina in default parameters but I haven´t saved the changes.

                                  Much better.

                                  Thanks


                                  Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 23.13.09.jpg


                                  Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 23.12.43.jpg


                                  Captura de pantalla 2014-01-29 a la(s) 23.12.11.jpg

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    Oli,

                                    Do you have any way to play with the Retina settings on OSX to see if they would impact the text size? Some other Retina users have a bigger text.

                                    If not, then, I am afraid that I won't be able to do anything about it, except that the buttons are now bigger.

                                    Fredo

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                                      oli_sketch
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi again,

                                      The only way (Mac) that I know for change the type size on screen is choosing resolution.

                                      When you talk about retina users with normal size, are they using macosx 10.9.1 ? macbook pro 15" latest 2013 ?
                                      Gráficos NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB ?

                                      Thank you again

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                                      • fredo6F Offline
                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by

                                        LibFredo 5.6a, just published integrates some limited support for Retina users.

                                        You can set the parameter on in the Default Parameters dialog box of LibFredo6.

                                        Retina and LibFredo6 5.png

                                        When set, the size of the button palettes, visual progress bars and some custom tooltips will be enlarged by a factor 2.

                                        HOWEVER, there is no way to change and adjust the font size proportionallyfrom the Sketchup Ruby API. So you may still get tiny fonts if this was the case before.

                                        Thanks to Retina users to advise on the change and signal if there are graphical elements that would need to be enlraged as well. I am also referring to the width of lines, which I did not change in the current version (except for the Visual Progression bars).

                                        Fredo

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                                          oli_sketch
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Fredo,

                                          I show you some screenshots. The types are little enough but bigger than before.

                                          Much better. Thank you very much.

                                          Kind regards.

                                          pd.- I put a screenshot from Soap Buble plugin with the same problem....


                                          Captura de pantalla 2014-02-03 a la(s) 19.54.03.png


                                          Captura de pantalla 2014-02-03 a la(s) 19.49.30.png


                                          Captura de pantalla 2014-02-03 a la(s) 19.49.45.png


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                                          Captura de pantalla 2014-02-03 a la(s) 19.50.26.png

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
                                            last edited by

                                            Maybe this tool could help the retina user. SwitchResX 4

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                                            SwitchResX - What it is

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                                            SwitchResX (www.madrau.com)


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