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    • inteloideI Offline
      inteloide
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      Thank you JQL, that make me "boost".

      Two things :

      • I wanted to post officially the plugin when working 100% ok. Glro already help me on that even if I desesperate to explain how useful the plugin could be.
        -I cannot find where to post a plugin, I looked in the pluginstore but couldn't find easily... I'll ask SketchUcation team how to proceed.

      After some feedback and maybe 2-3 improvment I have in my mind and I will officially post it. Hope this will be done for end of week. 🎉

      In few seconds, I post the new version 1.4.0 with interesting updates :

      Added : Options are now saved in My Documents folder instead of Inside Model

      Added : Option to select automatically the instances in the model (yes by default)

      Added : Number of instances of components beside component definition name, ex : toto (*3), means 3 instances in the branch of the list

      Added : Plugin version in title for more traceability

      Added : Update list when openning an existing file or creating a new file

      Removed : Progress in Sketchup state bar (I will try in implement again later)

      Removed : Old code for sub-menu options

      Corrected : Error in observers for new model and open model

      Corrected : Components in root of the model were duplicated in the list : not anymore

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        I'll add you to the Plugin Author group tomorrow and get this listed in the PluginStore

        Thanks for sharing your plugin here

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        • inteloideI Offline
          inteloide
          last edited by

          ok thanks !

          Just post version 1.4.1, as Win32API.so file is required, for option saving.
          It didn't saw it as it was included on my computer with other plugin I have...

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          • G Offline
            glro
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            @inteloide said:

            ok thanks !

            Just post version 1.4.1, as Win32API.so file is required, for option saving.
            It didn't saw it as it was included on my computer with other plugin I have...

            version 1.4.1 lists components as you wrote
            here is a screen shot of my screen
            re load definition problem

            All components came previously from my components folder

            for the components written in green, I modified the definition path using the 3rd button from the left; that is why they are written in green

            I didn't do it for the components written in orange

            For this particular component written in orange, i tried to reload the existing definition, and failed...

            Why is it necessary to create manually a new definition, anyway, since the address of the component is known (shown at the bottom of the window)?

            Why is it that the plugin does not go directly to the adress of the component and check if it is up to date?

            Maybe i don't understand well the definition of "definition"...

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            • inteloideI Offline
              inteloide
              last edited by

              Hello,

              the plugin is made to update component without having to link (third button) each of them...so there is something strange.
              If item is in orange, this means that he could not reach the file, and as you don't modify the component, the plugin didn't create a relative link. Therefore it lloks like the file is not reachable.
              Could you send me the complete link (as show in bottom of the window, you can select it and copy it by right clicking on) and send me the real link (through windows explorer for example), to see what's going wrong.
              The error may come from special characters...maybe.
              Also, you can try to copy the link in bottom of the window to the windows explorer to see if the file is opening.
              Thank you to make this trials !

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              • JQLJ Offline
                JQL
                last edited by

                Hi inteloide,

                Great plugin you have here. Fills a lot of my needs for xref and component management in models.

                I get a script error after trying to open a complex model in SU 2013.

                When I start SU2013 it autoloads a template file with 2 components one is there because of a plugin.

                If I open a particular existing file, with lots of components (618 Groups; 537 Component Definitions; 2548 Component Instances) I get a blank list where only those 2 previous components from the template file remain.

                If I refresh the list using the first button, I get no update, the two components are still there and I get the following error message:

                Component Manager Scripts.png

                However there are other files where this doesn't happen and the list becomes full immediatelly when I open them.

                The main difference I can remember between both files is that in the one that gives me the error I've been managing files/components with XREF manager plugin, from TIG.

                There is no info on Ruby console.

                If this info is not enough and you need something more, just tell me that I'll try to get it.

                Thanks and congratulations on your excellent work.

                Best regards,

                JQL

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                • inteloideI Offline
                  inteloide
                  last edited by

                  Hello, there is a problem with special characters. I tried it and it failed, so it's sure.
                  I will correct this and you will be able to try again to see it solve this issue.

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
                    last edited by

                    You're right!

                    I took out all "àáéíóúâãõç" characters from component and group names and it's now showing what seems to be the full list of components and groups from my probmodel.

                    It's really fast in doing that too, so this might also be an outliner replacer... and if it is... you've made me a very happy SU user!

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                    • inteloideI Offline
                      inteloide
                      last edited by

                      There are errors when:
                      -component name include special characters
                      -file path include special characters

                      First one generate javascript issue => should be easy to repair
                      Second one involve issue in ruby coding : harder to solve... But I found a solution on this forum : I will try to correct using it.

                      Humanity will do a huge step when the IT professionals will understand that computers are tools...

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                      • inteloideI Offline
                        inteloide
                        last edited by

                        Hello,

                        Just update the new version that solve special characters issue (thanks to a TIG script).
                        Other improvments :
                        Added: Number of instances are written in italic blue to make it different from definition name
                        Corrected : Bug when component or path have a special characters inside
                        Corrected : Move Win32API in BGSketchup folder not to interfer with other plugins
                        Corrected : Simplify reload definition script, avoid error when Group is selected
                        Corrected : add to_java function to format string to reach javascript standard

                        Please make trials in your models and tell me if it corrected issues you had.

                        I'm glad to see people happy of this function. May some of you push "Donate" button when it will be published, a little contribution to allow me buying a 3D printer (my dream). 😉

                        Also, if some improvment are missing from your point of view, please tell me.

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                        • inteloideI Offline
                          inteloide
                          last edited by

                          New version 1.6.0 :
                          Added : Window can be resize
                          Corrected : Avoid graphic issue when selecting different line in the list
                          Optimized : Simplify CSS file (removed un-used data)
                          Optimized : Buttons are now centered in window

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                          • JQLJ Offline
                            JQL
                            last edited by

                            Excellent update, I'm going to test it and I'll try to say something later!

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                            • inteloideI Offline
                              inteloide
                              last edited by

                              @jql said:

                              Excellent update, I'm going to test it and I'll try to say something later!

                              Some bugs actually... Selected lines are not highlighted. Color bug in list. List size error when uploading the list.
                              I will correct this tonight.
                              I will add a function to manage levels of components in file name ex:"toto ind 2.skp", to upload only last level.

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                              • JQLJ Offline
                                JQL
                                last edited by

                                That level management is a very good idea for nested xrefs...

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                                • inteloideI Offline
                                  inteloide
                                  last edited by

                                  @jql said:

                                  That level management is a very good idea for nested xrefs...

                                  Yes ! It would be very useful for me !! 😉
                                  I already code the script to check if other files exist in a path with different level. (You will see, in version 1.7.0 in "options", that options are implemented but not active)

                                  So the idea will be, when updating a component definition from a file, to check if other file exist with the same "base" but with different level. Ex :
                                  "c:\toto\drawing.skp"
                                  "c:\toto\drawing ind2.skp"
                                  "c:\toto\drawing ind3.skp"

                                  Then the plugins will update only the highest level : "c:\toto\drawing ind3.skp"
                                  Therfore, you will be able to keep history of your component by saving it in a different level each time you modify it !

                                  Of course the level idenitificator (" ind" here) will be changeable in options).
                                  Also, this options can be activable or not in options too.

                                  Just pending for me to implement the script at correct places and that's it !
                                  I hope to complete this by Thursday (yes, tomorrow start the sales in France...and my TV is broken down...sniff 😞 )
                                  So version 1.8.0 will have this useful function ! Just wait a bit...

                                  New version update (1.7.0) , with following changes :
                                  Added : New red color to distinguish file newer than definition with file older than definition
                                  Added : New option to choose if the brightest red color means file newer or older than definition
                                  Added : Add refresh time in window bottom when updating the list
                                  Corrected : Number of component instances in a branch was wrong
                                  Corrected : Restore highlightning of selected item (come back to previous script...)
                                  Corrected : Number of instance in same style that item to avoid double item selection error
                                  Corrected : Avoid to have unlinked components text in the same color than previous list item (CSS)
                                  Corrected : Options were still saved in model (even if not used)

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                                  • JQLJ Offline
                                    JQL
                                    last edited by

                                    Oh I see now! What you mean by levels is revisions.

                                    So if you save a lot of revisions or versions of the same component the latest version will be the one the plugin finds to reload. Though that is not what I thought it is, it is useful indeed!

                                    Best regards,

                                    JQL

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                                    • G Offline
                                      greatoe
                                      last edited by

                                      does this script work on mac version? thx

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                                      • inteloideI Offline
                                        inteloide
                                        last edited by

                                        @greatoe said:

                                        does this script work on mac version? thx

                                        Hello Greatoe,
                                        not sure it work on Mac, as I don't have one, as system is different...Maybe the best is to try and tell me if it's works...
                                        I will try later to understand how Mac file system works and update, if required.

                                        JQL, what yours thoughts were exactly ? Maybe I can implement !

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                                        • JQLJ Offline
                                          JQL
                                          last edited by

                                          I thought you where refering to nesting levels inside Xrefed components.

                                          Just to clarify, even if I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of Xref there might be someone else not familiar with it. A Xref is a .skp file that has been referenced as a component inside a model (TIG is also able to reference .dwg files with his Xref Manager plugin but that's not the scope of your plugin).

                                          So imagine a model of an house that has 2 floors:

                                          • The house might be a component that you can "save as" to a file, Xrefing it.
                                          • But inside the house there might be many other components like the 2 floors, kitchen, bathrooms, closets, etc...
                                          • All of those components might be Xrefed too so you get a lot of Xrefs with other xrefs inside. This can be called nested Xrefs
                                          • With your plugin it's very easy to "reload" or "save as" multiple components at the same time;
                                          • It's also easy to choose specific components to "reload" or "save as" and it tells wich ones need to be updated, wich is excellent;
                                          • What I thought you were talking about was the ability to auto update only the components that were more deeply nested inside other components that needed an update, without having to update all components above.

                                          Example:

                                          • Inside house component there's 1st floor component;
                                          • Inside 1st floor there's the kitchen component;
                                          • Inside kitchen there's a counter with a sink component;
                                          • All of this components are xrefed;
                                          • You changed the sink component in the file and all of this nested Xrefs are outdated;
                                          • If your plugin would be able to automatically detect that the sink component was the only component interfering with this "outdate" status, and would be able to update all only by reloading the sink component, this would be a wonderful time saver.

                                          That was what I was thinking of, but it might be a bit complex.

                                          Best regards and thanks again,

                                          JQL

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                                          • inteloideI Offline
                                            inteloide
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello,

                                            Thank you for explainations. (I'm not familiar with Xrefs)

                                            Change wouldn't be so long, actually the plugins always upload file, even if the definition is update to date, so just by check before that file date = definition date, then issue is solved.

                                            Also, I was thinking that plugin is also purging all definitions each time it upload a definition : this cost a lot of time too. I will also change this to purge only and updating end.

                                            Also I will add these options :

                                            • Avoid the window to open each time you open Sketchup (in case you don't want to use it)
                                            • Add toolbar to quickly open/hide window
                                            • To avoid list updating when model is openned, in order the model to load faster (in case of big file), may be just refresh component names, but not check files dates.

                                            I'll try to implement this for version 1.8.0

                                            Planned updates for version 2.0.0 (you can let me know you wishes) :

                                            • Options in Html form (for better look)
                                            • Add a model/component history text input, to allow writing your model improvments and components improvments.

                                            The idea would be to have an host window which can accept different sub-windows from different plugins. Each plugin could be loaded separately but when you have installed the host window (host plugin), every other plugins (made by me, of course) will fit in the same window (you would be able to change from one to the other by clicking an icon). Then it keep clear your workspace !
                                            So additionnal function like "model/component history" still stay in the same window.
                                            Good idea, no ?

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