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[Plugin] Component Stringer UPDATED May 23, 2013

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    syonker
    last edited by 19 Jul 2013, 16:55

    Hi there...Has anyone else had the issue where you highlight your component and path, and hit the "Component Stringer" menu item, the path gets "Start/End", but nothing else happens? No dialog to continue?

    -S

    *UPDATE: This is 100% a function of rights. Ran SketchUp with Admin rights and it worked like it should! Thanks Chris - this is really nice to have! ๐Ÿ˜„

    -S*

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      syonker
      last edited by 20 Jul 2013, 01:53

      Ok, this is a truly awesome plugin...nicely done.

      Now to solicit any hints and tips...for my application, what I am designing is an Asian pagoda with "ceramic tile roofing". The roof is a traditional shape with curves along the peaks, eaves, etc...there is a wire frame of curved lines that I was able to get the center tiles to span along nicely (see image below), but as I approach the sides, there is the start of a twist in the geometry. The problem comes in that when setting the axes in the tile component (which is actually four tiles, two-by-two) and spanning along the curve, it seems to apply the "turn along curve axis" starting at the wrong end of the disprove (so that the bottom side of the shingle chain lifts off rather than the top tapers toward the peak as it should). Tried switching the axes (just flips the shingles upside down) and drawing the curved line from the other end (no impact). Wondering if there would be a way to tell it at which end to start the zero rotation point...or if there would be a way to write it for a wireframe or surface propagation? Or honestly any recommendations or tutorial videos that might help with this or any general comments are all appreciated. โ˜€

      Shot of the top pagoda roof...one line of shingles...

      http://www.yjprod.com/image/MISC/PAGODA004.jpg

      Shot of the shingles themselves, and the component shingle...

      http://www.yjprod.com/image/MISC/PAGODA003.jpg

      Render of three rows of the shingles...

      http://www.yjprod.com/image/MISC/PAGODA001.jpg

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        pilou
        last edited by 20 Jul 2013, 07:41

        Maybe Panelization by Sdmitch?
        Components onto faces by Chris Fullmer?

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          syonker
          last edited by 21 Jul 2013, 02:46

          I checked out those two plugins and by all rights they are awesome (Chris's was a little easier to get working and was more, code solid - awesome work Chris). I realized while working with them that based on the architecture I am working with I really needed to go back to the component stringer. For any normal staggered shingles like slate, etc. the objects on surface plugins would work great, but in pagodas they follow a traditional linear format based on original builds being ceramic laced to bamboo...it's the "bamboo" that each of the rows follow. So a LOT of playing with axes, the weld plugin, object orientations, and curved lines, I got part of the roofing laid out (see images below). I have a long way to go for the tipped-up points and other curves but hey it's a labor of love this one...

          Similar shot to above with shingles leading to peak:

          http://www.yjprod.com/image/MISC/PAGODA005.jpg

          Tilted shot showing the yin and yang symbols at the tips of the "bamboo" trusses:

          http://www.yjprod.com/image/MISC/PAGODA006.jpg

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            spreadcore
            last edited by 25 Sept 2013, 18:29

            Okay what am I doing wrong? I'll assume it's my mistake.

            I'm using the chain link in the demo video as a example of what keeps happening.

            I made a link component and a arc and I followed each step and this is what happens:

            http://s5.postimg.org/iuwp5detj/compstringtest.jpg

            The links don't line up right and are huge, also I don't get the words start and End at the ends of the arc.

            I'm using
            Sketchup 8 on Windows 7
            Plugin: clf_component_stringer_1-3-1_0.rbz
            Plus I went so far as to restall sketchup and only that plugin just to make sure there were no conflicts with other plugins.

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              Box
              last edited by 25 Sept 2013, 19:32

              The relationship of the components axis to the path is important. You need to change the components axis to follow the path you want. You also have a choice of sizes if I remember correctly, none, stretch and uniform, to suit.

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                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by 25 Sept 2013, 19:44

                Yup, its going to align the blue axis of your component to the edges of the curve. So you need to edit your component (double click to enter inside the component) and then rotate the geometry so that it aligns with the blue axis, in the manner that you want to string it.

                Post the model here if you still need help aligning it.

                Chris

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                  spreadcore
                  last edited by 25 Sept 2013, 20:11

                  @chris fullmer said:

                  Yup, its going to align the blue axis of your component to the edges of the curve. So you need to edit your component (double click to enter inside the component) and then rotate the geometry so that it aligns with the blue axis, in the manner that you want to string it.

                  Post the model here if you still need help aligning it.

                  Chris

                  Okay, the align the blue axis was the part I needed. just tried it and works.

                  Though it still doesn't show the labels "Start" and "End" at the ends of the path.

                  Not a big deal it still works, but curious why they don't show.

                  Thanks for the help.

                  SC

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                    mcescher
                    last edited by 17 Nov 2013, 04:56

                    Hi..
                    Thanks, Chris, for this plugin. Nicely done!
                    I have a quick question, however. Whenever I use this plugin, it omits the end vertex. Is this intentional, or am I doing something wrong...
                    What I want to do is: I have a curvature surface (like a boat hull) and want to place 12 bolts equal from each other. My curve has the vertices in right spots and bolts align nicely, but last one never shows up. So it ends up with 11.
                    Thank you in advance.
                    Best,

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                      marvill
                      last edited by 10 Dec 2013, 16:52

                      I can't install the plugin, could someone that can help me how i must do it? please.
                      i have Sketchup 8 pro in windows 8 64 bits.

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                        gilles
                        last edited by 10 Dec 2013, 18:52

                        did you read the thread?

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          tranhungdao12a3
                          last edited by 27 Dec 2013, 03:41

                          I downloaded plugin ComponentStringer and copy to "C:\Program Files\Google SketchUp 2013\Plugins" but it didn't work. On video guide, The plugin inside Chris Fullmer Tool.
                          How do I want to use this plugin with your attachment's file?

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                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 27 Dec 2013, 10:02

                            @tranhungdao12a3 said:

                            I downloaded plugin ComponentStringer and copy to "C:\Program Files\Google SketchUp 2013\Plugins" but it didn't work. On video guide, The plugin inside Chris Fullmer Tool.
                            How do I want to use this plugin with your attachment's file?
                            Why are you making your life so complicated ?
                            The guide relates to another version of SketchUp, although the principles are the same...

                            The correct path for the v2013 Plugins folder is:
                            C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2013\Plugins ๐Ÿ˜’

                            If you download the plugin's RBZ archive you can then automatically install it in the correct location by using SketchUp's ...Preferences > Extensions > Install... button, and choosing the RBZ file.

                            NOTE:
                            If you have restricted permissions to your Plugins folder [the system default] you might have difficulties doing the Plugin installation by auto or manual means... ๐Ÿ˜•

                            To fix your Plugins folder's permissions do this:

                            As an Admin...
                            [if you are not an Admin you need to give yourself those powers in the Users 'Control Panel'...]

                            In Windows Explorer, find the Plugins folder's icon inside the '../SketchUp 2013' folder.
                            Select it and right-click > context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
                            Change it so that every entry in the list of users/groups has FULL read/write permission ticked.
                            Apply/OK to save the changes.

                            Also look in the same '../SketchUp 2013' folder for the program file "SketchUp.exe":
                            Select that and right-click > context-menu > Properties > Compatibility > tick the bottom check-box 'Run this program as an administrator...' [or similar wording]
                            Apply/OK to save the change.

                            NOW try auto-installing etc...

                            TIG

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                              tranhungdao12a3
                              last edited by 30 Dec 2013, 08:24

                              thanks

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                                AcesHigh
                                last edited by 21 Jan 2014, 11:49

                                Ok, so this plugin only puts the components at the curves/lines NODES.

                                Therefore, unless your curve has absolutely the same line size between nodes, you will either get components NOT touching each other or you will have (with selected option) some components stretched or resized to touch the other.

                                That does not makes for realistic chains in plenty of cases.

                                Is there any other plugin capable of doing a CHAIN, or maybe specialized at doing it?

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                                  AcesHigh
                                  last edited by 21 Jan 2014, 12:16

                                  @chris fullmer said:

                                  Hi Hu. There is no option for spacing. It always inserts a component at each line segment. There is no way to skip line segments, or evenly space components over uneven lengthed lines.

                                  It should not stop after a single component though. Could you upload the test model where this happened? Thanks,

                                  Chris

                                  canยดt you add the option? ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                  Chains are such basic things, but there is really no useful plugin to make good chains at Sketchup. If you need to put a chain in a model with each chain link measuring the same size, and a specific size at that (lets say, 5cm for each link), there is simply no Plugin that can do it! Yours is the one that reaches closest (specially because of the component rotation), but the lack of component spacing instead of resizeing complicates it all for jobs where you want components to stay the same specific size, no matter the lenght of each segment in the curve.

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 21 Jan 2014, 12:38

                                    Option "Stretch" don't answer to your problem ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      Box
                                      last edited by 21 Jan 2014, 12:44

                                      You can adjust the node spacing to suit. One way is with Bezier spline. Select the line or group of lines you want to use, right click and select polyline divider, put in the size you want and away you go.


                                      This was made with multiple arcs, converted to 5mm spacing. You can see the wrong link where the line ends.

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                                        AcesHigh
                                        last edited by 22 Jan 2014, 02:08

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Option "Stretch" don't answer to your problem ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                        not if you want EVERY component to remain the same size. Stretch will STRETCH the components to fit the same size as the segments.

                                        http://i.imgur.com/4ow48X7.jpg

                                        from left to right
                                        1- the component (which I want to remain always on that exact same size)and the path, made of two semicircles with same number of segments. However one semi-circle is larger than the other, thus the segments on the second semicircle are larger

                                        2 - with uniform scaling

                                        3 - with stretching

                                        4 - no scaling. Thus, the components maintain their original size, exactly as I want. Too bad that THEN not only they do not touch each other as they also have different distances between them

                                        @BOX: thanks for the tip. However, I needed to use CATENARY CURVES plugin to make the curves. Unless I can transform a catenary curve made with the plugin into a polyline with segments all the same size?

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                                          AcesHigh
                                          last edited by 22 Jan 2014, 02:15

                                          @Box: thanks!!! Your method works flawlessly! I would have never thought of BZ Polyline Divider conversion!

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