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    • B Offline
      Backstyler
      last edited by

      Hi TIG,

      what do you think of my suggestions?

      Best,
      Felix

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      • M Offline
        matt.gordon320
        last edited by

        Thanks a million TIG! This is brilliant! Can't wait to see what you come up with next, you're a scripting machine!

        ADDENDUM - Hey TIG, I've been using the heck out of this plugin since I discovered it, and in fact I wanted to see if I could make a request or two? I've got a model with probably 25 XREF SKP components, and it's super stable. The only thing is that because my monitor resolution is somewhat lacking at work, I'm about 2 XRef's away from the Manager window not fitting the screen any more. I think a re-sizable or scroll-able XRef Manager window would be amazing if it isn't already in the works. Knowing you it'll be posted before I hit submit πŸ˜„

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        • masoM Offline
          maso
          last edited by

          TIG You are the best. This plugin really upgrades sketchup to another level:) Thanks again.

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          • Q Offline
            qazokm
            last edited by

            Hi, just update you that this plugin doesn't supply Autocad 2013 format.

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              It's Sketchup that doesn't support that ACAD version format !
              The plugin simply does what Sketchup can do...

              So either set your ACAD options always to save as an earlier version - which as well as suiting Sketchup, is kind to other recipients who might be running earlier ACAD versions.
              If you have received CAD files from a third party and they won't make them as an earlier version for you, then get/use 'DWG Trueview' from AutoDesk [free] - that will convert most DWG/DXF files into other versions, that would be compatible with Sketchup and other CAD programs too.
              A DWG/DXF file for import into Sketchup needs to be only the very earliest of versions [r12?]... because Sketchup only brings in its 'geometry'; so any newer versions' sophistication will be ignored anyway... that is except for the newer versions' 'unit settings' - but then these are always misinterpreted by Sketchup's importer as being inches, even when clearly set to something else... so r12 is again best...

              TIG

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                Manijeh
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                @tig said:

                [attachment=0:a3p4jurl]<!-- ia0 -->XrefManagerHelpNotes.pdf<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:a3p4jurl]

                Dear Tig,
                I just downloaded your xref manager tool.
                One of the benefits of xref's in autocad is that you can insert an xref and not add to the size of the host file.
                with sketchup making file sizes so huge this would be an awesome option, but your Xref manager does not seem to work this way. am I correct in assuming this? also will an inserted xref update within the host file when I revise the original?

                Thank you so much for your reply.

                Manijeh

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @manijeh said:

                  @tig said:

                  [attachment=0:ik81ktpq]<!-- ia0 -->XrefManagerHelpNotes.pdf<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:ik81ktpq]

                  Dear Tig,
                  I just downloaded your xref manager tool.
                  One of the benefits of xref's in autocad is that you can insert an xref and not add to the size of the host file.
                  with sketchup making file sizes so huge this would be an awesome option, but your Xref manager does not seem to work this way. am I correct in assuming this? also will an inserted xref update within the host file when I revise the original?

                  Thank you so much for your reply.

                  Manijeh
                  You can't have Xref's like AutoCAD's. A full version of the Xref-SKP is inserted as a component. It has a date-stamp. If the external SKP is changed it is newer so the option is to 'Reload'... You can do this manually with SKP components in your model. All this [old] tool does is automate the management of these. It uses the term 'Xref' because most users with a CAD background understand the concept of having several files combined into a single 'project'... Unfortunately SketchUp has no ability to make a 'reference' - the full SKP's geometry has to be inserted as a component - like a CAD 'Block' [an 'Xref' in CAD is just a special kind of 'Block' where the geometry is left in its original host...]

                  TIG

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                    Venom008
                    last edited by

                    Can you also install this on mac? Or only import referenced mac sketchup files? Can only find the windows file. Great program though!

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      What makes you think this doesn't work on a MAC πŸ˜•

                      A few aspects - like DXF import WERE initially 'for PC only' - but that was several versions ago.
                      The current tool is completely cross-platform.
                      Depending on the SketchUp version then the import of certain file-types other than SKP might be available on Pro installations only.

                      There is essentially no difference between SKP files made on PC or MAC.
                      They should open on any other machine.
                      The only thing to remember is that a v2013 file won't import into a model that is open in SketchUp <=v8, but a SKP <=v8 will open in SketchUp v2013 etc...

                      TIG

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                        Venom008
                        last edited by

                        My bad, I placed the file in the wrong plugins folder on mac! Needed to go to it via the library. Thanks alot for this program. It will safe us alot of (waiting) time!

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                        • M Offline
                          MKumar
                          last edited by

                          Hi Tig, Your tool xref tool is very helpfull, But if you can include an option to unload xrefs temporary and reload when necessary would be a great. Cheers

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                            atelierpaar
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                            Hello Tig,
                            I would like to try xrefManager in SU 2013 but it doesn`t appear in SU Pluginstore.
                            Is there a reason ?

                            thanks for looking in to it
                            Uli

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              It is there, do a search for 'xref'... πŸ˜’

                              TIG

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                              • atelierpaarA Offline
                                atelierpaar
                                last edited by

                                found it - dont know why I didnt see it before πŸ˜„
                                thanks
                                Uli

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                                • JQLJ Offline
                                  JQL
                                  last edited by

                                  TIG,

                                  Would it be easy for you to add a function for one to be able to save over xrefed files through your manager! One could update the externa files in bulk, instead of doing that one by one using context menu's save as. If you would would want to be safe it could warn, or write a backup of the overwritten file of course, as it would be a dangerous operation...

                                  Thanks and best regards,

                                  JQL

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Pending a more major overhaul to ye olde Xref tool [currently stalled]... here's a stop-gap v2014 compliant update [v6.1] - now available from the PluginStore http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=XrefManager

                                    TIG

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                                      hulmevv
                                      last edited by

                                      TIG,
                                      You have saved the day again!! πŸ˜„

                                      I first became COMPLETELY dependent on your brilliant SketchUp XREF Plugin, back in 2005 & '06, utilizing your much earlier versions (ver 3.6) of XREF Tools. Here is a project example which allowed us to go well beyond SketchUp's typical application at the time (2006 Exhibit Link: goo. gl/YP5z9k ) The resulting animations might look primitive compared to today's SketchUp examples; however, they are over 8 years old at this point. πŸ˜‰ Video Link: landinnovation. com/nsscsec56vid. html

                                      The bottom line; to see you have once again stepped up to the plate and updated your awesome work to support SketchUp 2014, is just exceptional! ...And in fact, very timely for some brand new SketchUp based endeavor we have planned!

                                      Thank you so much for the hard work, and consistently helpful results! πŸ˜„

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                                        paappleb
                                        last edited by

                                        TIG,

                                        First off, a big THANK YOU for all your plugins. You are a great member of this community. Never got to say that before as I rarely post to the forum (lack of time to do so).

                                        Apparently there was a maintenance update for 2014, which I installed today and since then I noticed XREF manager has not stopped working with DWG/DXFs. Here's the error message I am getting from the Ruby Console:

                                        Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method definition' for nil:NilClass> C:/Users/pappleby/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/XrefManager.rb:388:in add_dwg_attrib'
                                        C:/Users/pappleby/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/XrefManager.rb:374:in add_dwg' C:/Users/pappleby/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/XrefManager.rb:797:in block in <top (required)>'
                                        -e:1:in `call'

                                        It worked fine before the update. Any idea what could be causing this?

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @paappleb

                                          Thanks for the feedback.
                                          This is an old plugin well pass it update date... πŸ˜’

                                          I'll look into your report...

                                          TIG

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                                          • G Offline
                                            g.moggel
                                            last edited by

                                            hey tig. first of all thanks for your amazing work.

                                            this plugin seems great but i discovered a problem - when i update and have changed a material inside the original file it gets imported as a new material and wont change the already existing material. so i have to delete it, purge and replace it. are you planning on updating it?

                                            cheers,
                                            mo

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