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  • D Offline
    Dave R
    last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 18:20

    Joint Push/Pull?

    Etaoin Shrdlu

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    (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

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      Box
      last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 19:02

      If you could post a .skp with just the curves you want to use. After all, it's not the curve creation you want help with.

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        gilles
        last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 20:50

        A one minute work,FredoScale bend tool:


        BendTool.png

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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          Vicspa
          last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 20:53

          That would be my suggestion too, thanks Gilles. πŸ‘

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            mitcorb
            last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 22:34

            This made me go looking in the Plugins Index.
            Jim Foltz's Simple Shell
            ThomThom's Shell

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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              alcohorse
              last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 23:44

              Thanks gilles thats great! Did try using a combination of twist and bend but wasnt sure where to apply them or the lengths of the axis. Any chance of a quick step by step otherwise perhaps ill look up the fredo manual/tut vids. Cheers for demonstrating how ridiculously simple this should be!

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                gilles
                last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 09:43

                Here we go:

                FredoScale: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17948#p144180


                Radial bend1.png


                Radial bend2.png


                Radial bend3.png


                Radial bend#4.png


                Radial bend_V6.skp

                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                  alcohorse
                  last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 10:25

                  Thanks Gilles - that is amazing! I will take a look at it later and hopefully can kick on from there - thank you so much!

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                    DareDevil
                    last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 10:34

                    πŸ‘ πŸ‘ @ Gilles

                    My way use Shape Bender . Just take care the two pathes must have the same length.
                    bend.jpg

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                      gilles
                      last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 11:03

                      Yes, I use it to, but if you have multiple bend.


                      Radial bend.png

                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        DareDevil
                        last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 11:34

                        @gilles said:

                        Yes, I use it to, but if you have multiple bend.

                        In this case, FredoScale won !! πŸ˜†

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                          alcohorse
                          last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 22:00

                          @daredevil said:

                          :thumb: πŸ‘ @ Gilles

                          My way use Shape Bender . Just take care the two pathes must have the same length.
                          [attachment=0:3gv2f0sd]<!-- ia0 -->bend.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3gv2f0sd]

                          Thanks DD, I'm not familiar with that plugin but will give it a try too. Thanks for all your help guys!

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                            alcohorse
                            last edited by 26 Mar 2013, 01:03

                            Thanks to everyone for all your help. Below are some images showing a basic model demonstrating the principle of the stair I am aiming to create. I have created a star along the original rectangle as modelled by gilles, and then followed the procedure to bend it.

                            I actually want the length after the bend to be at 90 degrees to the original length, but raking down at an incline (say 45 degrees the purpose of this test). I have gone through a number of attempts to bend this 'stair' back up from its vertical position. Any thoughts on how to achieve this in a way that achieves a graduated rescaling around the 'fold'? Alternatively should I be looking to alter the original transformation to arrive at the form I am after. I fear if this is the case then it may come back to basic maths which Gilles has already demonstrated he has a far greater talent for than me!

                            Below are some of my attempts so far with the last probably being the closest to what I'm after:

                            Original fold as helpfully instructed by Gilles

                            Scrunching of geometry at start of fold

                            Scrunching at end of fold

                            Getting there...but would rather the incline followed of at a tangent to folded curve...

                            As close as I have got bending back the vertical portion from the specified point with a specified radius of 500mm - the distance from the horizontal to the vertical element

                            My model file if tis any use?!

                            No problem if nobody knows - this thread has already been a massive help to me so thanks!

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                              gilles
                              last edited by 26 Mar 2013, 21:00

                              Not sure to see what you want to draw, any reference pic even hand made?

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                panixia
                                last edited by 26 Mar 2013, 22:53

                                @alcohorse said:

                                I am not good with rhino however and it would be great if I could cut it out of my workflow for this project and just get curviloft to work in the same way.

                                in this particular case i would prefer "extrude edges by rails" from TIG extrusion tools.. actually i think is the more accurate and it also looks like the more "rhino-esque way"

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                                  alcohorse
                                  last edited by 29 Mar 2013, 17:40

                                  @gilles said:

                                  Not sure to see what you want to draw, any reference pic even hand made?

                                  Thanks Gilles. I don't actually have anything firther at the moment - the stair is envisaged as being part of a large mixed use building and is just a concept idea at present. Thanks for all ideas but the bending solution is definitely the best for what I need as it will transform the stair tread and glass handrails that will also be included.

                                  Obviously people will only be able to walk on the stair once the treads become fully horizontal I think I have all I need for now - I will probably post again when I am further along.

                                  Thanks everyone, and gilles in particualr for taking the time to label up your explanation.

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                                    gilles
                                    last edited by 29 Mar 2013, 23:10

                                    You're welcome, don't forget to post your work on progress.

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      Box
                                      last edited by 30 Mar 2013, 01:12

                                      I'm curious now, you have added the stair idea, but the shape you are talking about folds back on itself, therefore making it impossible to form a walkable staircase, unless your name is Escher.
                                      Are you trying to make something like this?


                                      Stair.JPG

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