Trimble & Sketchup 64 bit

[megui96]

i agree 100% with jason

[holmes1977]

@megui96 said:

i agree 100% with jason

I'll double that

[3D Modeler]

Hi Everyone.

I have read many (but certainly not all) of the posts in this Thread but I still don't know what to conclude about SU and 64 bit processors.

I am building a new PC this weekend and have ordered Win 7 Home 64 bit but didn't realize that there "might" be issues with SU and 64 bit.

Are there serious issues I need to be aware of ?
Has Google or Trimble produced a Patch or anything that will allow me to use SU with my new system ?
What do I need to know ?
Is there a particular/specific Setup that I need (like running in Vista or XP Mode) ?

I'd appreciate any help with this issue BEFORE I run into any problems .... as I'm sure I'll have enough issues getting the new system up and running and other program installations.

Respectfully,

Chris aka SnowTiger

[Chris Fullmer]

I don't think you'll run into any problems at all. That has been my experience. SU is a 32 bit program, and your 64 bit system will run it just fine in 32 bit mode. You won't even know its doing it. No special settings to change or anything. Specifically do not run it in some weird xp-mode compatibility or something.

The discussion in the thread is about getting Trimble to release SU as a 64 bit software so it runs in native 64 bit mode. None of that will affect you being able to run SU.

Perhaps the main thing you might run into that I've seen many people complain about is your video card. Make sure after you install windows that you run all updates. Then go get the most recent video card drivers from your card's website. Then make sure you have your OpenGL settings in SU configured - you want to use hardware acceleration for sure, and you probably want to use fast feedback if your card doesn't freak out when you turn it on.

Good luck,

Chris

[mitcorb]

For whatever this may be worth, as you may see in my profile, I am using/ have used Sketchup 6, 7, 8 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine, and I have had no significant problems. Sketchup installs itself in a program folder with x86 in the title( for 32 bit programs) as Sketchup is a 32 bit program. I have not yet needed to make any adjustments to ram usage or any other power user adjustments.

I see that Chris Fullmer has replied just ahead of me. I will submit anyway, to basically corroborate what he says, as if you need another vote

[thomthom]

@chris fullmer said:

I don't think you'll run into any problems at all.

Certainly not any errors related to running a 32bit application under an 64bit OS.

The only time you cannot run a 32bit application under 64bit Windows is when that application needs to install system drivers.

[mac1]

<[quote="Phillip"]"This is an old topic, please inform yourself." Aerilius>
Perhaps you should inform your self before showing what you do not know. The issue of multi-core vs single is not new and has been around for years( 15=>20). The upper limit on cpu speed is around 3.5 GHZ for the general tower and lap top design. The use of multiple core is the industry attempt to get around that as well as addressing power, heat etc issues.
The issue of multi-core( or massive parallel for us older to know the back ground) has a whole host of problems that you did not address or probably even know about. If you do a modicum of net search on the issue you will find test cases that show single core is faster than multiple core when processing data that is more inherently single stream. You will find very little on the issues of bugs and correction and let me assure you that is not a trivial issue when you have a multi-core system processing inherently single stream data especially if the stream is changing.

[Aerilius]

(Oh, that quoted quote is a bit out of its context. I added the links for reference.)

[dll]

all that said, I simply want to know the fastest and bestest platform for using sketch up.

[jpalm32]

So all those 64 bit software companies wasted their time redoing their software?
Autocad would work just as well as 32 bit?
I guess I'm just confused.

[Futurepast]

@jpalm32 said:

So all those 64 bit software companies wasted their time redoing their software?
Autocad would work just as well as 32 bit?
I guess I'm just confused.

I think of it this way, first you draw the box..then you make it a component. You can't make it a component before you draw it. So that's the linier end of it. But if you copy and paste a hundred times, that could be multi cored 100 times, because it already exists. Which would be faster than using just a single thread.

So, no I don't think they wasted their time.

[Dan Rathbun]

@futurepast said:

So that's the linier end of it.

linear

[xbjllb]

I'll tell you this. Trimble is not getting the money for Pro out of me until it's 64 bit and multithreading. I am sure I am not alone. Let the market decide if it's quicker and let us find out for ourselves if it will quit crashing on humongous projects instead of feeding us all the reasons it won't be. I'm tired of the thing crashing during every thea render and I don't want to break my projects up into pieces old technology can handle, and I'm tired of excuses, and I'm really tired of script writers who don't want to rewrite their scripts for 64 bit. If music and video programs can do it and Thea Render could do it, sketchup can certainly do it. If not for performance, for mere market appeal.