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  • T Offline
    toynlet
    last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 15:51

    @jason_maranto said:

    Certainly true, but working in a large company having access to all of the Maxwell plugins can be useful -- with just one license you can have several people working in several different applications at the same time (via the plugins)... some doing scene setup (SketchUp, 3DSMax, etc.), others doing postwork (Photoshop, Nuke, After Effects). And with the 5 render nodes you could have as many as 6 scenes rendering at a time... as far as I can see the only thing the license is tied to is the computer(s) doing the actual rendering.

    My point wasn't so much that Thea was a bad value, just that "value" is a subjective idea.

    But yes, testing and research is the only way to know what might be your best fit. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

    Best,
    Jason.

    Forgive me, Render nodes?
    Would I be correct in thinking these are seperate PC's linked together to render multiple scenes or a scene in a shorter time?

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      jason_maranto
      last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 16:01

      Render nodes can be installed on all your machines in a network, the main machine with the license could be considered one render node by itself (meaning it can render) but it could also be the manager of the other networked computers.

      Essentially you can render up to how many licenses you may have (in this instance 1+5) -- this can be used to render 6 different scenes or render 1 scene 6 times faster... or any combination you like.

      This is particularly valuable in a large company setting because these renders can be queued up to render overnight while the staff is not using the machines for any other purpose.

      A clarification of my last post -- The plugins may not be intended to be usable over several computers, that is just my experience. Meaning I have one license and use both my computers to work. While one machine is rendering I am on the other setting up scenes (SketchUp or otherwise)... It works very well for me.

      Best,
      Jason.

      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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        Stinkie
        last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 16:11

        @jason_maranto said:

        My point wasn't so much that Thea was a bad value, just that "value" is a subjective idea.

        I know. And I agree. πŸ˜„

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          solo
          last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 16:17

          As Jason above mentions render nodes are a great asset for large rendering jobs, animations etc, Thea offers three nodes as a basic package as well as options to install full suite on two machines. My workflow is pretty simple if I am working on one large project and need to render I will use all 4 machines in a network setup to get the job done fast, if it's a single scene I just farm it off to one machine and keep working on a new project using my main rig. I have also started using Dropbox as a great trick instead of using the internal nodes I just pack my scene and paste into dropbox, open it up on another machine and hit render, thus I can close it on main machine and start next project.

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            solo
            last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 17:52

            Just took a look at the example you posted, firstly I'd work on the materials, getting better quality seamless materials will help when rendering, I pretty much left your model as is, just added pavement and road and some tree proxy's, used HDRI lighting and background, 5 minutes setup and 10 minutes render, all within SU (not studio) no post processing.


            Example.png

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              pbacot
              last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 18:33

              Pete,

              That's impressive Pete. (of course these are YOUR times πŸ˜„ ) Is this with the Thea "soon to be released" πŸ˜’ plugin? I can't wait.

              Did you modify the window material?

              Peter

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                Al Hart
                last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 18:49

                @toynlet said:

                Hi Guys

                Apologise if this is posted in the wrong section but I thought asking people who use different packages and regularly produce high quality photorealistic renders would be the best to ask for a bit of advice!
                Steve

                There are some sample SketchUp renderings, from various rendering packages, on this site:

                Link Preview Image
                Sample Models and Renderings | SketchUp Rendering

                Examples of SketchUp rendering from different plugins and tips to get started.

                favicon

                SketchUp Rendering | Rendering (sketchuprendering.com)

                I think my main observation of them is that all the packages can product good renderings one the user spends a little time learning how t set things up.

                Al Hart

                http://wiki.renderplus.com/images/e/ef/Render_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                  Stinkie
                  last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 20:12

                  Pete, looks good. Bsd?

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                    solo
                    last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 20:31

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Pete, looks good. Bsd?

                    TR1 (unbiased), I tested BSD and it rendered in 2 min 46

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      Stinkie
                      last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 20:34

                      Not bad, not bad at all. I assume you downsampled the image?

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                        solo
                        last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 20:43

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Not bad, not bad at all. I assume you downsampled the image?

                        I set supersampling on 'normal', I did a quick video of the interactive BSD engine.

                        Let me upload it to someplace and post in this reply when done.

                        Here it is, It's in this wide format as I recorded over two monitors (both 27 inches)

                        So take into account I am rendering at a huge ratio of 1870x850 (my SU ratio)

                        Link Preview Image
                        Dropbox - 404

                        favicon

                        (dl.dropbox.com)

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          Stinkie
                          last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 21:21

                          Cool vid. Thanks for that.
                          My assumption was you made your image smaller in post, thus compressing the noise.

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                            jpalm32
                            last edited by 29 Nov 2012, 23:20

                            Twilight will give great results at very reasonable price. Learning curve can be applied to Thea!

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                              solo
                              last edited by 30 Nov 2012, 05:51

                              @jpalm32 said:

                              Twilight will give great results at very reasonable price. Learning curve can be applied to Thea!

                              Absolutely, Twilight is another great option.

                              The new Thea4SU is very simple to use by the way.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                Stinkie
                                last edited by 30 Nov 2012, 06:26

                                @solo said:

                                @jpalm32 said:

                                Twilight will give great results at very reasonable price. Learning curve can be applied to Thea!

                                Ah, yes. Forgot about that one. Good choice for a beginner. Easy to use, cheap, nice forum. And there's a tutorial on Lynda.com .

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                                  toynlet
                                  last edited by 30 Nov 2012, 08:59

                                  Thankyou to everyone for their input!
                                  Even more research for me and hopefully an opportunity to use some of these packages.
                                  Steve

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                                    jo-ke
                                    last edited by 1 Dec 2012, 11:34

                                    @solo said:

                                    all within SU (not studio) no post processing.

                                    Is there now a thea- SU integrated- version (comparable to twilight) without export like Kerkythea?

                                    Sounds interessting!

                                    http://www.zz7.de

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                                      solo
                                      last edited by 1 Dec 2012, 13:15

                                      @jo-ke said:

                                      @solo said:

                                      all within SU (not studio) no post processing.

                                      Is there now a thea- SU integrated- version (comparable to twilight) without export like Kerkythea?

                                      Sounds interessting!

                                      Yup,it's amazing, not yet available as it's still in beta, hopefully some time this month.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        jo-ke
                                        last edited by 1 Dec 2012, 14:01

                                        Wow!

                                        This are really good news!

                                        Can't wait to try it...

                                        http://www.zz7.de

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                                          kilgo
                                          last edited by 3 Dec 2012, 18:10

                                          Here's one from Podium.


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