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    • D Offline
      driven
      last edited by

      @dan rathbun said:

      It could be a unicode UTF16 codepoint. Ruby is UTF8.

      I often use them as puts on mac only scripts to remind me it won't work on a PC, they show up in console returns, so that side is ok, also I can make 3D Text versions with the native tool (which I thought was based on Todd's 3D TextTool ruby)
      WebDialogs are UTF8 as well and they show up htere in most fonts [some don't have the charset]

      @unknownuser said:

      There are sometimes tricks you can do with Array.pack and String.unpack.

      I looked into .encode to see if I could add a conditional to make one from code, i'll look into .pack... cheers

      @unknownuser said:

      Code-wise, try to save .rb files in "UTF8 (without BOM)" aka "ANSI as UTF8" encoding. I don't know what your Mac code editor calls it, but that's what Notepad++ does.

      everything 'ruby' on the mac is "UTF8 (without BOM)" with unix line endings, even 'pasteBoard', 'Terminal' and 'Applescript editor' are since OSX 10.5.

      It's only some downloaded rubies that need changing, although if it's just line endings any will work in SU.
      john

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
        last edited by

        @dan rathbun said:

        @driven said:

        what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc... so each operation is a single font...

        Set chunk = 1

        I really meant, set:
        chunksize = 1

        I'm not here much anymore.

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
          last edited by

          It is very bad to modify base classes. (spanky spanky)

          This should do the job:

          chunksize = 12
          chunk = 1
          limit = macFonts.length
          model = Sketchup.active_model
          
          fsize = 1.0
          linespacing = 1.2
          
          bold = true
          italic = false
          thick = 0.05
          filled = true
          quality = 0.0
          
          i = 0
          
          while i < limit
          
            begin
              #
              model.start_operation("3D Fontnames (#{chunk})")
                #
                chunksize.times do |n|
                  #
                  break if i == limit
                  #
                  item = macFonts[i]
                  grp = model.entities.add_group()
                  grp.entities.add_3d_text( "#{item}", TextAlignCenter, "#{item}",
                    bold, italic, fsize, quality, 0.0, filled, thick )
                  grp.name= item
                  grp.move!( Geom;;Transformation.new(Geom;;Vector3d.new(0,-(i*linespacing),0)) )
                  #
                  i += 1
                  #
                end # chunk
                #
              model.commit_operation()
              #
            rescue Exception => e
              puts("\n*** macFonts group Error! ***")
              puts("  i = #{i}")
              puts("  chunk = #{chunk}")
              puts("  font = #{macFonts[i]}\n")
              model.abort_operation()
              puts("Error #<#{e.class.name}; #{e.message}>")
              puts(e.backtrace) if $VERBOSE
              raise
            end
          
            chunk += 1
          
          end # while
          

          EDIT: Added a few Exception messages, and option vars before iteration.
          EDIT(2): Added linespacing var.

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          • Dan RathbunD Offline
            Dan Rathbun
            last edited by

            EDIT(2) previous code post: Added linespacing var.

            I'm not here much anymore.

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            • D Offline
              driven
              last edited by

              cheers again,
              linespacing is a nice touch.
              all the code runs, returns nil. then draws view with the new groups, changing chuncksize doesn't alter that.
              it doesn't take too long.
              only two fonts don't fully form, may be the size, but not bad really.

              so, the main purpose was to check that the osascript fonts were the right one, and they are...

              and I learnt a little ruby
              thanks dan
              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                Dan Rathbun
                last edited by

                It occurs to me that because the fontsize is only 1 inch, that many arc segments are ridiculously small, perhaps overloading the SketchUp engine.

                Try setting:
                fsize = 1.0.feet linspacing = 1.25.feet

                ❓

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                • D Offline
                  driven
                  last edited by

                  Yeh, I tried that, didn't make a lot of difference,
                  I use 100 and 120

                  fsize needs to be in inches, doesn't it?a sample of the sample

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                    Dan Rathbun
                    last edited by

                    @driven said:

                    fsize needs to be in inches, doesn't it?

                    1.0.feet will return a Length object == 12"

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                      driven
                      last edited by

                      I missed the dot... oops should stick to copy/paste

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        I tried this:

                        <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />t</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Time</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">now<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">osascript&nbsp;-e&nbsp;'tell&nbsp;application&nbsp;"Font&nbsp;Book"&nbsp;to&nbsp;set&nbsp;macFonts&nbsp;to&nbsp;name&nbsp;of&nbsp;every&nbsp;font&nbsp;family'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">","</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">uniq</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">strip</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">respond_to</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?&nbsp;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">strip</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">sort<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;quitFontBook</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">osascript&nbsp;-e&nbsp;'tell&nbsp;application&nbsp;"Font&nbsp;Book"&nbsp;to&nbsp;quit'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">length&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">>&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;then&nbsp;quitFontBook<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;end<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">length<br />puts&nbsp;Time</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">now</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">-</span><span class="syntaxdefault">t<br /></span>
                        

                        On the first run it yielded 8.500629 seconds.

                        The next was 2.422791 and 2.286048 seconds.

                        If I comment out the code the closes Font Book the times are 0.241677 and 0.228576.

                        So the overhead of launching Font Book is just all too high.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          driven
                          last edited by

                          but you only need to run once, and write the 'Users' personal font-list to file [save in TT-Lib]
                          if the User instals new fonts [very rare] they could delete the file and make a new one, or that could be an option?
                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            That could be a fallback. But I'm still hoping to find a method that works quickly which I can use. the fc-list is fast - it's just that I cannot get the output from that. ..and for some reason I cannot seem to direct the output to a file... Maybe one can trigger a new console command that might actually be able to write to file?

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              But this is bringing us full circle 😕
                              You might as well try to use something like:
                              fonts_file="\"path/to/fonts.txt\"" system(fc-list : file family | grep /Library > fonts_file)
                              Or something similar ? #{fonts_file} ??... Whatever can be made to work !
                              Or even a more convoluted
                              UI.openURL('file:///'+commandfilepath)
                              And then read the ttf-font names from the fonts_file 😕

                              There is a simple solution [KISS]...
                              In my own [far less sophisticated] '2dText' tool and some of my similar tools like 'AreaTextTag', which make 3dText as '2d flat editable text', my drop-down-list of the available fonts is simply a combined list of some ttf fonts that are usually shipped with recent PCs A_N_D MACs.
                              For the reduced list in the AreaTextTag it a simple array of a reduced list, typed in the code that the user can customize. In the more wide-ranging 2dText tool it's read in a simple txt text file ['2DtextTool_Fonts.txt' in the tool's subfolder] of the 44 common font-names - the user can edit this [there are instructions in the tool's Help] - either to remove unwanted ones [e.g. in case he doesn't use 'Wingdings' very much], or to add custom one he has also installed on his computer [like 'Architext' or 'Consolas'] that are not in the default combo list... This allows the user to have their own customized fonts list and it's not that hard to alter/update/customize either... 😕

                              TIG

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                              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                Dan Rathbun
                                last edited by

                                Other option(s):

                                (a) Use UI.openpanel to let users manually pick font files, that are then added to the plugin's fontlist (kept as a hash file in the plugin's folder. The file distro's with a base set of standard Mac fonts.)

                                (b) Use the SDK and C/C++/Objective-C to get the list of Fonts Sketchup knows.

                                (From memory, I do think Sketchup's known fonts is exposed in the SDK.)

                                I'm not here much anymore.

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                                  driven
                                  last edited by

                                  I've found the KISS Applescript version, just figuring out if it's easier to strip the results first or in ruby.
                                  the basic can then run as osascript...

                                  set search1 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin /Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text
                                  set search2 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin ~/Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text
                                  

                                  results look like this
                                  %(#0000FF)[/Library/Fonts/NISC18030.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Kai.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Hei.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/BiauKai.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Apple LiSung Light.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Apple LiGothic Medium.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Lucida Console.ttf
                                  /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Candara Bold Italic.ttf]

                                  also, I think if a plugins is offering font manipulation for artistic usage, it should have all the 'SU' fonts and let the User decide which to use
                                  john

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    So that returns the filenames, but do the filenames represent the font names exactly?

                                    I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

                                      XP
                                      %(#004080)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts]

                                      reg_fonts_on_win.PNG

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        I suspect that the ttf file name is not always the font name 😒

                                        MAC's 'fc-list' will provide the font-name, font-family etc -
                                        I can't believe that 'we' can't get it to write the list to a variable using system(...) 😕
                                        Have you tried something like this?
                                        font_list=system(fc-list : family | cat)
                                        or similar, where the output gets piped to something that can return a value like 'cat' ?
                                        OR perhaps:
                                        font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))
                                        OR probably with 'escaped' (), more like:
                                        font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))
                                        😕

                                        TIG

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          @tig said:

                                          I can't believe that 'we' can't get it to write the list to a variable using system(...) 😕

                                          Yea, I wish I knew why this is mis-behaving inside SketchUp. 😕

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Have you tried any of my 'convolutions', to redirect / pipe its output to some other function that then might successfully return the values to 'system' ?
                                            As it does several 'lines' of output in the console can we pipe it through a loop ?
                                            Or like font_list=system(cat ($(fc-list : family)))
                                            Perhaps with some \ escaping of the various () ???

                                            TIG

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