Simple country barn

solo

@solo said:

As you can see there is a lot going on in scene that for those who have never used proxy's might look very strange, not to worry I can explain that very quick and easily.

Hi Solo,

This is looking great, if you get a spare moment, could you explain the use of proxies? Think it would be very useful.

Cheers.

Lee,

The best and possibly easiest way to explain without video or images is a Proxy is a component that you can use in Sketchup without using in Sketchup, in other words it is real geometry that will only be recognized and seen in a render and does not effect Sketchup (depending on the geometry you use to represent it) Like my images on first page, an entire tree that is way too heavy (polygon speaking) to even be opened alone in SU can be populated to your hearts content as each tree weighs the equivalent of 12 lines and not hundreds or thousand polygons, so take the scene I posted, in total it's over 2 billion polygons, something SU could never ever even dream of opening, But SU is not handling the geometry as Thea is.
So you may be limited by SU, Thea now gives you a way to overcome SU's limitations as far as polygons go.

So in a nutshell a proxy represents full geometry without having to use it in the SU model.

I think doing a video tutorial will be better as typing this and reading it confused me, I make more sense just saying and showing, once you get past my accent.

renderiza

This blows my mind how you were able to set this up...Beautiful Indeed!

srx

Video.

leedeetee

Thanks Solo, it's a great explanation.

Can the proxies be used in SU in general, or, is it a Thea specific tool?

Mike Amos

PDF over video every time, much less obfuscation in a pdf.

boofredlay

@solo said:

I think doing a video tutorial will be better as typing this and reading it confused me, I make more sense just saying and showing, once you get past my accent.

My point exactly. I just finished a tutorial for Catchup that took many hours to complete. Had I done it with a video it would have been about 10 min. long. Then maybe 30 min. of editing the video with tool tips.

dale

Pete, I don't care which you choose, I'm just looking forward to it.
Thanks

pbacot

I'm with the monkey!

solo

Thanks guys.

I need to wait until Tomasz (the author) releases his final beta version with any new changes, feature or UI improvements before starting, there is no point doing a tutorial if my version is different to the released version, so as soon as I get that i'll get going with it.

I like the idea of doing it in short sessions, covering topics like Interface, using proxy's, making proxy's, render settings, animation, lighting, crf's, DOF, etc, that way you can watch the parts you need without having to sit through hours to find the bits you need.

Stinkie

That would work for me.

jpalm32

Solo,
Do you have problems with precise alignment with the proxy. Do you find yourself going back & forth after quick renders to correct?
As example: A tree or bush placement next to another item.
Or are proxy best for general palcement?

solo

@jpalm32 said:

Solo,
Do you have problems with precise alignment with the proxy. Do you find yourself going back & forth after quick renders to correct?
As example: A tree or bush placement next to another item.
Or are proxy best for general palcement?

The only adjustments I did in image was the tree behind camera in order to get correct shadow cast, remember in Thea4SU you have all render option so you can use interactive rendering (realtime) to see how it is while you are doing it.

jpalm32

That's right, it's interactive.
That has to help! Nice render!

smarque

I prefer pdf over video as I feel that written material is good for referring to later especially in this subject where I have a steep learning curve to master. I just feel that I can take it in slower in pdf form?

tridem

Agree with smarque. Moreover, for people not speaking english, watching a video with spoken explanations could be very hard, while a text can be translated quite easily.
That said, thanks for whatsoever you'll do

cadmunkey

Would prefer video tutorials, I have found that sometimes in pdfs, minor details have been missed out that doesnt enable new users to follow exactly what was intended.
As a side note, have Thea not considered using the same system for generating grass in sketchup that Maxwell have recently launched? Saves having to have a ton of proxies just to build a field? Looking forward to getting a play with this when released.

john.warburton

Forced to choose between video and PDF, I would prefer video. But both have advantages, and I'd like to have both!

notareal

@cadmunkey said:

Would prefer video tutorials, I have found that sometimes in pdfs, minor details have been missed out that doesnt enable new users to follow exactly what was intended.
As a side note, have Thea not considered using the same system for generating grass in sketchup that Maxwell have recently launched? Saves having to have a ton of proxies just to build a field? Looking forward to getting a play with this when released.

Hair/fur system and ecosystem are on the roadmap. No date when these will be available.

cadmunkey

@notareal said:

Hair/fur system and ecosystem are on the roadmap. No date when these will be available.

Sounds great!

marked001

@dale said:

Pete, I don't care which you choose, I'm just looking forward to it.
Thanks

I'm with Dale. And I'm very excited for this!