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Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    timetess
    last edited by 2 May 2012, 03:51

    thank u for sharing,like it!

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      charly2008
      last edited by 30 Jun 2012, 13:54

      Hi,

      thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

      Charly

      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        fredo6
        last edited by 30 Jun 2012, 14:00

        @charly2008 said:

        Hi,

        thanks for this wonderful plugin. I often work with it. I have now installed the latest version but I get no dialog box. What do I need to see the dialog box?

        Charly

        Charly,

        With the visual edition, you have a preview mode and you can type the offset in the VCB. The dialog box can be invoked by pressing TAB or via the contextual menu.

        Fredo

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          charly2008
          last edited by 30 Jun 2012, 14:46

          Hi Fredo,

          Thanks for the quick reply. It works.

          Charly

          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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            pilou
            last edited by 30 Jun 2012, 14:47

            What is exactly the option "Thickening" against the normal use ?
            Can you put a little image before/ after

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              SUN288
              last edited by 24 Aug 2012, 06:36

              cool, thanks for testing fellas

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                Kokorenromp
                last edited by 29 Aug 2012, 14:26

                Hi all,

                I try to use the plugin to create a skin within an angular 3D model.
                It gives some trouble at a point where 6 edges intersect. The plugin creates a new point, after averaging all 6 normals to the faces, but keeps the edges together. I would like to see a result where new lines are created and previously horizontal or vertical edges stay hor/vert.

                Is this plugin or another plugin/function in SketchUp able to do this in a single operation or do I have to adjust it all by hand?


                beforel.jpg


                Using Joint Push Pull

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                  Lana
                  last edited by 13 Oct 2012, 18:32

                  **[highlight=#ff40ff:s59i081v][/highlight:s59i081v]**thank you very much!

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                    engineeric
                    last edited by 17 Oct 2012, 18:16

                    I installed this tool months ago, but only just realized what it does. Another great plugin from Fredo6. Thank you.
                    I read through the suport literature and cannot repeat something I'm seeing there: According to the support document, if my neighboring face normals are less than the angle of influince from the target face normal, the they will influince the targets offset. Correct? I tried to re-create what was shown on page 13 & 14 of the document, but my model seems unaffected by angle of influince. Did this functionality go away in later versions, or am I mis-interpreting something?


                    angle of influince

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                      mitcorb
                      last edited by 18 Oct 2012, 11:59

                      Hi engineeric:
                      In your image, did that one face not extrude in a multiface selection and extrusion? Occasionally, this may happen, or it seems it has happened with me. Maybe the selection was made appropriately, but that face was spontaneously deselected?
                      In this simple example, you obviously could construct the missing portion by using JPP by normal or by vector, or even draw the completion with the pencil tool. In a more complex example, any of these corrections could get tedious.

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                        pbacot
                        last edited by 18 Oct 2012, 13:55

                        I think OP is looking at how the angle at the sides of the extrusions are normal to the extruded face and not influenced by the angle of the adjacent face.

                        It has been a while since I did this similar operation (the faces on the left). As I recall (and I probably have that file) the edge faces did angle outward and not come out square. I can't repeat this now myself...so, good question.

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          engineeric
                          last edited by 18 Oct 2012, 14:47

                          pbacot is correct. I've attached the relevant portion of Fredo6's support document to make the point clearer. In attempting to reproduce his example, I find that no matter what the angle of influence is, I only get the results of the Fredo's middle image. That is, extrusions next to deselected faces are normal. pbacot, you said this feature worked before. I wonder if your file was done with a previous version of JPP? I grant you the support doc is now 4 years old.


                          pg 14 of JPP support doc

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                            Haven Design Workshop
                            last edited by 19 Oct 2012, 20:46

                            Hi there,

                            This script is very close to doing exactly what I need, and I'm hoping somebody might help me figure out how to take it the rest of the way... I'm trying to take roof systems that are drawn as single-faces, and then vector push them vertically into their proper thickness. JPP works fine for this, but it ends up with vertical hidden lines between the upper and lower face, which make it messy to turn the final roof into a solid, which is necessary for further editing. Outside of going through the complex roof form and deleting or filling-in every hidden edge, is there a way that vector push pull can just make a standard solid geometry?

                            Thanks!

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                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 20 Oct 2012, 00:39

                              Look through the tools options [and help docs].
                              You can set it to retain the original face, and also NOT to make 'internal partitions'...

                              TIG

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                                fredo6
                                last edited by 4 Nov 2012, 18:24

                                @engineeric said:

                                pbacot is correct. I've attached the relevant portion of Fredo6's support document to make the point clearer. In attempting to reproduce his example, I find that no matter what the angle of influence is, I only get the results of the Fredo's middle image. That is, extrusions next to deselected faces are normal. pbacot, you said this feature worked before. I wonder if your file was done with a previous version of JPP? I grant you the support doc is now 4 years old.

                                Since JPP 2.0, the angle of influence is not used any longer (see release note).
                                I don't remember why I had to suppress this.
                                I'll try to have a look at the code to see if I can re-stablish it

                                Fred

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                                  wodur
                                  last edited by 27 Nov 2012, 08:34

                                  incredible, thanks.

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                                    AlainBo
                                    last edited by 3 Dec 2012, 14:50

                                    Hello,

                                    I discovered and tried your tool with the last Catchup edition 15 to create the Hans Wegner chair.

                                    Following this tutorial, I discovered that 2 of the 3 extrusion possibilities cause problems; the J and N where the result pulled face creates unclosed faces. The problem doesnt occur when we use the V tool.

                                    The attachments illustrate the problem.

                                    Regards,
                                    Alain
                                    surface pulled.PNG
                                    pb joint pushpull.PNG

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                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 3 Dec 2012, 14:58

                                      @Alainbo

                                      Tiny differences can cause issues with SketchUp/OpenGL that filter down through the API code.
                                      Two points can end up appearing to the 'engine' as being coincident when they are not and thereby a face is missed off. In your case it looks like a creeping tolerance issue.

                                      To avoid this if you scale up what you are working on [temporarily] by say x10 chances are that the extrusion vertices will all play nicely and no faces will get omitted. Scale back down afterwards and the issue won't reappear - it's the creation involving small dimensions/edges/facets etc that's the issue, but they can exist, just not be 'made' at those values.

                                      TIG

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                                        AlainBo
                                        last edited by 3 Dec 2012, 15:08

                                        Ok TIG, I'll try to work like that.
                                        Thanks

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                                          ossie
                                          last edited by 6 Dec 2012, 14:49

                                          Genius plugin
                                          Thank you very much

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