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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      It's often easier to work with components that have a gluing/hole-cutting feature but I cannot really tell from the screenshot if it were easier in your particular case.

      Gai...

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      • beginnerB Offline
        beginner
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        by Gaieus
        Use the Ctrl+Shift combination to scale it about the center uniformly on the side grip. Now you can enter exact values adding the unit, too.

        Don't deselect the object after Step 3... type the required size (4.8mm) and Enter
        It would scale down to the required size πŸ‘

        @unknownuser said:

        by Gaieus
        You will need to PushPull the thing back to original length at the end though.


        20121005-ScaleUniformAndCenter.png

        Regards, SU 'beginner'

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        • HelmiH Offline
          Helmi
          last edited by

          Hey Beginner. Thanks. Problem is that the center must be where it was before scaling and the height should not be scaled. πŸ˜‰

          Still didn't find a suitable way with the original scale function but as long as FredoScale works i'm happy.

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          • beginnerB Offline
            beginner
            last edited by

            Hi Helmi,

            @unknownuser said:

            the center must be where it was before scaling

            The center of the object stays as it was before scaling (Use the Ctrl+Shift combination) but of course the height is scaling too. πŸ˜‰
            20121005-ScaleUniformAndCenter2.png
            The other option is to select and scale the top and bottom circle of the cylinder separately - it works too. πŸ˜„
            20121005-ScaleUniformAndCenter3.png

            Regards, SU 'beginner'

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            • Jean LemireJ Offline
              Jean Lemire
              last edited by

              Hi folks.

              Lets pretend that we have a vertical cylinder to scale to a precise diameter or 4.8 millimeters.

              This can be done with the Scaletool. However, the exact sequence of cation is critical. Follow these steps exactly as instructed:

              1 - Select the object to scale using whatever method suits you.

              2 - Select the Scaletool.

              3 - Place the cursor on any one of the four scaling handles that are mid heigth on the corners of the scaling box. This will allows you to do a scaling along both the red and green axes at the same time. Dont bother using the SHIFTkey since it will allow only one number to be entered in the Measurement Window, that is a scale factor and not a precise measure in mm or whatever unit you are using.

              4 - Press and keep pressed the CTRLkey. The CTRLkey is for uniform scale about the center.

              5 - While still pressing on the CTRLkey, click on the handle to start the scaling operation. You will see two numbers in the Measurement Window. These are the scale factors along the red and the green axes. If they are different, the cylinder will be ovalised. Dont worry.

              6 - Click to complete the scaling operation. The Measurement Window is still active and ready to accept input.

              7 - Type 4.8mm,4.8mmin the Measurement Window. If you use the comma as the decimal separator and the semi-colon as the list separator, type 4,8mm;4,8mm.

              8 - Press and release the RETURN key to validate the input. The cylinder shall now be:

               - round
               - of the exact diameter of 4.8 mm
               - centered where it was
               - of the same length as previously.
              

              Just ideas.

              Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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              • T Offline
                Trogluddite
                last edited by

                My usual method (used on screw/bolt holes all the time), is to use the 'entity info' window - you have to do each end one at a time, but I find it less fiddly that the scale tool, especially for holes, where the surrounding material can make it hard to see exactly what you're doing.
                Just click on one of the end circles, and the 'entity info' should tell you that you have a circle selected, and its radius. Now just type the new radius into the dialogue. Repeat for the other end. The circle centres will stay where they are.
                This way works great for drawing countersinks too (sorry no pics, I'm not at home). Once you have your clearance hole drawn, select one of the circles. Using the move tool with CTRL, drag a copy of the circle along the "tube" to the correct depth (locking axes with the arrow keys will help with this). Now select the circle on the top surface, and type an appropriate radius into the 'entity info' - hey presto, a perfectly conical countersink.

                Note that this will no longer work if some other operation has broken the circle into 'loose' segments - so worth practicing some more with that scale tool too!

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                • beginnerB Offline
                  beginner
                  last edited by

                  Hi Trogluddite,
                  Brilliant hint...
                  I've seen the settings many times but never 'touched' it πŸ‘ πŸ˜„

                  Regards, SU 'beginner'

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    If all you want to do is make the hole smaller, you could use the Cardinal edge for that and do it in one step.

                    Cardinal1.png

                    Get the Move tool and hover along the edge of one of the circles until circle turns black and you get the 'Endpoint' message. You've found a cardinal point.

                    Cardinal.png

                    Move the cursor down the wall of the hole below the cardinal point. You'll see the cardinal edge highlight as a blue dashed line. Click and release and drag in toward the center.

                    Cardinal2.png

                    Type the change in radius you're after. In this case ,2 and hit Enter. Finished.

                    The hole remains on the same center as it is resized. No need to do any gymnastics with the Scale tool. You could do the entire thing with a single finger.

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      DOH!

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • cottyC Offline
                        cotty
                        last edited by

                        It should be mentioned that the methods from Trogluddite and Dave only works with not exploded arcs and circles (and push pulled versions (e.g.)) ...

                        my SketchUp gallery

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                        • G Offline
                          Geoffree
                          last edited by

                          @trogluddite said:

                          My usual method (used on screw/bolt holes all the time), is to use the 'entity info' window - you have to do each end one at a time, but I find it less fiddly that the scale tool, especially for holes, where the surrounding material can make it hard to see exactly what you're doing.
                          .......

                          Really easy solution, works a treat! Many thanks.

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