Messin' around with my '56
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Looking fabulous. I know absolutely nothing about cars but it looks damn fine to me.
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Any idea of time for make such true gem ?
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@unknownuser said:
Any idea of time for make such true gem ?
I really have no idea how much time I have invested in this thing. Or any other model I've done. I bounce around from project to project so much, there's just no way to keep track of my time on any of them. I do know that I spend way too much time on everything I do. If I could learn to use some of the incredible plugins available to me it would help immensely, but most of them are way beyond my capabilities. I gave up a long time ago checking to see what new plugins are out there. No sense frustrating myself anymore than necessary
I actually started this thing quite a while ago, then pretty much forgot about it. My original intentions were to create a scene where it's in a barn or shed, up on jackstands, parts and pieces scattered around it - a forgotten project just rusting and gathering dust. Then I tried to realistically add some rust and grunge to everything, and discovered that adding rust to the appropriate places on everything, and getting it right, was a daunting task. Each texture for each piece and parts of each piece would have to be custom made and applied. Made some progress but finally just moved on to other things. Then for some reason I recently decided to tackle it again, this time just worrying about the modeling and not the texturing.
I did find a '56 Passenger Assembly Manual and downloaded it. Some of it is useful, especially this one -
I have that one practically memorized.I download a TON of reference photos for each car I'm doing or might do somewhere down the road. Each day Ebay emails me when a new listing comes up for the cars I'm interested in. Probably 12-15 each day. Unfortunately the majority of them aren't really new listings, they're just a re-listing of cars that didn't sell the first time around. I also have a list of used car sites that provide good, detailed photos of their cars and I visit them regularly. Can't begin to tell you how many thousands of photos I have for reference. Quite a chore getting them all organized so that they will be useful to me.
Anyhow, you didn't ask for all that. I'm rambling, sorry.
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wonderful, a lot of patience requiring work
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I'm not into cars much, (unless you count my Daewoo:)
But this seriously good and committed modelling defrosts my Kelvinator.I'm wondering if you could 3d print the parts, and sort of assemble them?
There would have to be a market m'thinks. For serious cash too.Baz
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OMG...extreme SketchUp...amazing details
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Very very nice model!
[off:yicf4lt0]Do you know any good sources for suspensions for old American muscle cars?[/off:yicf4lt0]
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[off:2zled1qq]Just reference photos. Unfortunately I don't have a cur myself.
I just began modelling a '69 Dodge Charger today and I got lots of photo references for the body. But not so much for the suspension - which you can see if you do low camera angles or into the wheel well.
(We can probably take the discussion here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=333&t=47691 So I don't completely steal your topic here.[/off:2zled1qq] -
Any plans on rendering this model?
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@thomthom said:
[off:vxr3wmem]Just reference photos. Unfortunately I don't have a cur myself.
I just began modelling a '69 Dodge Charger today and I got lots of photo references for the body. But not so much for the suspension - which you can see if you do low camera angles or into the wheel well.Well, for the '56 I found a lot of good stuff on Ebay (some people include some pretty good photos of the undercarriage, especially the expensive restored cars), and Googled for "56 Chevy restoration" and stuff along those lines (a lot of people like to extensively document their restoration projects). Also if you can find a site that offers a free PDF download of their parts catalogs for your car, they can be very useful. And finally, if you are lucky enuf to find an assembly manual that can be downloaded, that can be extremely useful.
@thomthom said:
(We can probably take the discussion here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=333&t=47691 So I don't completely steal your topic here.[/off:vxr3wmem]
Don't worry about it, this thread isn't very active anymore anyhow.
BTW, your charger is looking good
. Looking forward to seeing it's progress. I have yet to find blueprints for most the cars I model (and even if I could I can't seem to get the hang of using them like you're doing)Don't know why this thing is starting to use the tiny type, can't get it to switch back to normal size
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@thomthom said:
Any plans on rendering this model?
Wish I could. Rendering seems to be way beyond my capabilities for some reason
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@hellnbak said:
I have yet to find blueprints for most the cars I model
I found that those little model kits is very nice. Often they include side, top and front perpendicular views. Even if they don't, just having the 1:24 scale plastic model in your hand is a really nice reference. They don't cost more than $20-$30 - and you can give them away as a gift when you're done with them.
My my Charger I used plans for a model kit - only problem is that the drawings isn't that accurate. Worst of all, they are in perspective, so the front and back in particular is inaccurate as the windows and roof are too small due to the perspective. But lots of reference photos make up for it.
@hellnbak said:
Rendering seems to be way beyond my capabilities for some reason
Why not hand it out to a render competition?
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Yeah, I did get some 1/8 scale models of a couple of the cars I was working on. I had high hopes, but for whatever reason I didn't really use them very much at all. Will sell them on Ebay when I get around to it. I hate using Ebay nowadays. It was a lot of fun when it first started out, but now it's just a place for financial predators and thieves, and Ebay will not do anything to make it better.
But I digress. I know what you mean about trying to use a perspective shot. Sometimes I luck out and find a profile photo of a car I'm working on, but it's always a perspective shot and that makes it very difficult to use.
As far as submitting my '56 for a rendering challenge, it will be a long time before it's ready for anything like that. Haven't been working on it lately, for some reason I decided to rethink the first roadster I built. A lot of things I didn't like about it. Gonna post a thread on that to get some opinions about what I've done so far.
Here are some sites I've found that may (or may not) be of help --
A couple of forum sites dedicated to the Charger. I use forums a lot, a bunch of good info and photos.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=prdoeh3mi3dsfapuv81t2u2714&
http://www.chargerforumz.com/?gclid=CJzV072hqbICFYio4AodvykARgSome random sites about people restoring their Chargers --
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=5643
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3160504/1969-dodge-charger
http://oregongenerallee.blogspot.com/
http://www.moparmuscle69.com/index.htmlA site with a lot of parts catalogs that you can download (don't know how good they are, some are better than others) --
http://www.classicindustries.com/controller.cfm?type=catalog&action=catalogDownload&catalogId=12And a site with complete specs for the Charger and exterior and interior color chips --
http://www.oldride.com/library/1969_dodge_charger.htmlI save a lot of time by using Bulk Image Downloader. It will reap both regular photos and photos from thumbnails, from as many pages on a site as you specify. Can download hundreds of photos in just a few minutes. It costs about 25 bucks, but for me it was well worth it. Just for your info.
I know, a lot more info than you wanted, but hey, for the most part I'm bored
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Hey, If you ever need photos of specific parts, or diagrams let me know. I have a 56' at home and a pile of maintenance and repair manuals for it. Its not a Nomad like what your modeling, but for the most part their all pretty much the same guts.
Amazing model!
@hellnbak said:
@ely862me said:
The upper A arm could use some rounding on the outside edges !
I still can't believe your degree of patience !!
Yeah, I've worked on that. And the lower control arm. And pretty much everything else. I think I'll just buy a '56 and use it for reference (shouldn't cost too much, after all it's 56 years old, right?)
As for my patience, sometimes I do run short of that. But I remind myself that "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over"
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@tedvitale said:
Hey, If you ever need photos of specific parts, or diagrams let me know. I have a 56' at home and a pile of maintenance and repair manuals for it. Its not a Nomad like what your modeling, but for the most part their all pretty much the same guts.
Amazing model!
Wow, haven't thought about this model for awhile! Sometimes I bounce around working on my models and forget to bounce back to one
I really appreciate your offer. If and when I attack this thing again I may take you up on it. Right now I'm concentrating on learning how to render and how to use Photoshop (again. I used to be pretty good with PS but stopped for a couple of years and can't seem to remember a dang thing now. Frustrating)
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Insane is less said... astonishing detail on the framework and body. People usually don't pay too much attention when they're making cars as they used to do back in the 50's and 60's. You're the one that still does pay attention to those details, congrats !
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