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    Nikstar9
    last edited by 24 Apr 2012, 04:23

    Hi,

    I’m hoping someone can let me know what I’m doing wrong. I’m using Windowizer 4 which I only installed in the last week so should be up to date.

    My problem is that my windows always end up outside of my walls, not in my walls. I can move the window group back so that it is in the wall but I am left with 4 faces poking out on the wall which I then have to delete. I have attached a screen shot from straight after I hit apply on windowizer. Windowizer sample.jpg

    I have tried pre-cutting the window hole as well as not and it doesn’t seem to make a difference. I have also tried selecting different sides of the face and this also doesn’t seem to make a difference.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Nikki

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      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 24 Apr 2012, 08:56

      You have modeled your walls inside out. 😮

      Use a Style with a distinctive back-material color for faces ['blue' is usual, with 'off-white' for fronts].
      Change your View to Monochrome mode.
      If you see a 'blue' wall, then that's the back not the front!
      Such faces are readily reversed - select+right-click>'Reverse...'
      Connected faces can be matched to a selected face using the similar 'Orient'.
      Shortcuts to these two tools makes live a lot easier.
      There are also several scripts to 'reverse faces'...

      It's important to model with the faces correctly oriented - hence the different colors and tools to view and reverse them. Otherwise, as you've discovered, it can cause issues with some tools that need to decide which 'side' of a face they will add details to etc. It's also critical with many 3rd party renderers, these usually 'ignore' back-face materials, and can therefore give surprising results - some will use an off-white, some a black and some a transparent material, for such visible back-faces [there are tools to flip faces and materials over if too, but again it's best to get it right initially rather than the convolutions of fixing a messy model later]...

      TIG

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        Nikstar9
        last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 00:05

        Thanks, as soon as I reversed the faces it worked perfectly.

        It must be something I do but every face in my model needs reversing. I will use the monochrome style next model that I start from scratch and see if I can work out why. i usually draw a floor plan first then pull all my wall up. It must be something in that initial 2D plan.

        Thanks again.
        Nikki

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          brookefox
          last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 16:29

          Perhaps there is a plugin for reversing faces that are 'wrong' facing, granting that there may be some disagreement about exactly what that means, but I guess the parameters could be set so that it worked well enough. Matter of fact, TIG has probably written it.

          ~ Brooke

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            TIG Moderator
            last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 18:32

            @brookefox said:

            Perhaps there is a plugin for reversing faces that are 'wrong' facing, granting that there may be some disagreement about exactly what that means, but I guess the parameters could be set so that it worked well enough. Matter of fact, TIG has probably written it.
            Me AND many others... Search the Plugins Index...

            TIG

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              mitcorb
              last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 18:40

              In regards to generating back faces where you wouldn't ordinarily expect them, it is probably because you may be overtracing or constructing some of these from scratch. I noticed that when I do corrective input, it is sometimes the sequence of line work or the direction of linework in a circuit to close that will determine the face direction. I believe this is a known feature, and there is probably a "rule" chiseled in stone about it somewhere in the guts (gizzard) of the program. 😉

              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                Nikstar9
                last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 23:47

                Thanks for all the help. It is much appreciated. 😄

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