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    [Plugin] Hatchfaces (v1.8 beta) UPDATED 15-Dec-2012

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    • jolranJ Offline
      jolran
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      Thanks for the input and ideas Brookefox πŸ˜„

      Gridded components you say? Do you mean patterns or using some sort of workplane?

      You will be able to load premade patterns(components) from folders. Where you also can make your own patterns and stuff them in there.

      Anyway, The way the plugin is working now, is that a face-edges determine the boundarys. That way the user don't have to worry about which plane one is working on.
      Everything outside the face will be trimmed, including holes. Just like it's working in the current downloadable version.

      The plugin as is now, is not beta ready 😞 . I actually might do a "light" version for user testing at first. Cause there are so many things added it might be difficult for me to keep track of things when complaints starts to hail in πŸ˜‰

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      • jolranJ Offline
        jolran
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        @unknownuser said:

        Just 'patterns,' which are in fact component instances which can then all be changed by editing one of them

        Brookefox, I'm afraid that will not be possible if you mean altering them after the hatch-components are fitted to the face.
        What will happend(in the code) is that all tiled instances will be exploded before doing an intersection with the face. And in the end become 1 large component.

        I think Smidths plugins was an request to solve a particular problem, spacing out plants and stuff, including triangular array. In those cases one may not wish to delete geometry outside the faces. Works very well for what it was designed for, I think.

        Hatchfaces plugin obviously will be more "pattern-fit a face" sort of thing.

        Thanks for answering.

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        • brookefoxB Offline
          brookefox
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          @jolran said:

          @unknownuser said:

          Just 'patterns,' which are in fact component instances which can then all be changed by editing one of them

          Brookefox, I'm afraid that will not be possible if you mean altering them after the hatch-components are fitted to the face. What will happend(in the code) is that all tiled instances will be exploded before doing an intersection with the face. And in the end become 1 large component.... Hatchfaces plugin obviously will be more "pattern-fit a face" sort of thing.

          I guess that is really all that could be expected and quite a bit, at that. I'll wait with the hordes, not drooling.

          ~ Brooke

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          • brookefoxB Offline
            brookefox
            last edited by

            @jolran said:

            Gridded components you say? Do you mean patterns or using some sort of workplane?

            Just 'patterns,' which are in fact component instances which can then all be changed by editing one of them, and in this way a small square with edges hidden be turned into a stripe with edges shown, etc.. Distributing on the grid and trimming to the edges are the keys, as you know. These squares are made up of such gridded components, the whole square being changed by editing it: -->selecting all-->making instances unique-->then changing one. combo hatch-5.JPG

            @unknownuser said:

            You will be able to load premade patterns(components) from folders. Where you also can make your own patterns and stuff them in there.
            This will be super.

            @unknownuser said:

            Anyway, The way the plugin is working now, is that a face-edges determine the boundarys. That way the user don't have to worry about which plane one is working on. Everything outside the face will be trimmed, including holes. Just like it's working in the current downloadable version.
            This is super.

            I checked out sdmitch's component array plugin, which is very nice but doesn't do the undercover surgery required for neat component hatching.

            ~ Brooke

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            • F Offline
              function
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              wish someone could figure out DRAW ORDER for sketchup's open gl, it would be perfect for this, so you don't have to cut out everyshape, but just tuck hatches below another. Open GL has draw order, Autocad is 3d and has draw order.

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              • jolranJ Offline
                jolran
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                Could you elaborate a little bit more, please? Function πŸ˜„ .

                I have a hunch what you are asking for but I don't think it's doable in Ruby with current API for what I know. I could be wrong.

                BTW. Sorry ALL, for the delay in developping this plugin and releasing updates. Have been very busy with little or no time left for programming. But will be back on track soon.

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                  function
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                  oh - when faces occupy the same plane, sketchup chooses which will show. In ortho / parallel projection, it will choose one, and when you rotate around it will kind of glitch out and switch between what faces occupy the plane. I found a solution on here to use the glue function to help - but the results were unreliable. I believe draw order control would only be relevant / work in 2d. . I see hatch faces makes actual vector lines, which will always show through on the plane, but if faces use different textures or materials it will present a problem.

                  This openGL command may be a start - not sure how it plays out in ruby. - Apparently you can set a depthBuffer, as well.

                  The following call will turn off depth testing causing objects to be drawn in the order created. This will in effect cause objects to draw back to front.
                  
                  glDepthFunc(GL_NEVER);      // Ignore depth values (Z) to cause drawing bottom to top
                  
                  Be sure you do not call this;
                  
                  glEnable (GL_DEPTH_TEST);   // Enables Depth Testing
                  
                  
                  
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                  • jolranJ Offline
                    jolran
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                    Ah, see what you mean, Z-fighting.
                    I plan to have background colors/textures available in combination with edges(vector lines as you call it).

                    So, in my code I use the glue-to face-function. Appears to be working pretty ok for me.
                    Have you had issues with glue-behavior?

                    Can't give you any feedback on Open GL programming. Way over my head, sorry 😞

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                    • F Offline
                      function
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                      ya the glue trick was inconsistent for me- every object has be a component right?

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
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                        An Image or an Instance of a Gluing+Cutting Component, when applied directly onto a Face do not "z-flight"...

                        TIG

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                        • ipsketchpiI Offline
                          ipsketchpi
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                          Hi Jolran

                          I am using these plug for a long time, I believe these is something new, I mean these new screen.. is it already available- these new version of these plug?

                          /IP

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                            troypiggo
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                            This plugin looks exactly like something I'm after. I downloaded the 1.6 version from post #1 in this thread, but it only seems to have a very simple crosshatch available and the dialog isn't as well developed as some screenshots I'm seeing in some followup posts. I skimmed through the pages, but did I miss where an updated version with those concrete hatches etc is available?

                            This is not my signature. I type it at the end of every message for quality control.

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                            • jolranJ Offline
                              jolran
                              last edited by

                              Hi! Sorry for late reply.

                              At the moment there is only crosshatching with edges. ver 1.6.

                              The pictures you have seen is probably screen-grabs from developpment.

                              I just want to assure you I have not abandoned the project. In the future those features will be available, if all goes well.

                              Thanks.

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                                emartingr
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                                @jolran said:

                                Hi! Sorry for late reply.

                                At the moment there is only crosshatching with edges. ver 1.6.

                                The pictures you have seen is probably screen-grabs from developpment.

                                I just want to assure you I have not abandoned the project. In the future those features will be available, if all goes well.

                                Thanks.

                                Hello jolran,

                                Great plugin, just what I was looking for. Only one question: Can the menu keep the last input values? (angle, spacing). This would be useful when there are several surfaces to be identically hatched.

                                For the rest I found no bugs. Surfaces with complex geometries, with holes, spirals Etc, hatched fine. Thanks a lot.

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                                • jolranJ Offline
                                  jolran
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                                  Hi Emartingr.

                                  Can the menu keep the last input values? I'm afraid I can't tell you at the moment 😳

                                  (This is a bit embarrassing)I have not done any coding since May and now I feel lost in the world of Ruby, so I'm rehearsing a bit at the moment.
                                  Did not expect to forget a language so fast πŸ˜†
                                  rookie mistake..

                                  Hopefully be back soon. Haven't given up the idea with an update with better dialogs and stuff. Unless someone else has done a similar plugin since I've been gone.

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                                  • jolranJ Offline
                                    jolran
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                                    In Version 1.7 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=38637

                                    The menu should remember the values during sessions. Although not crosshatching. Crosshatching is calculated as a negative from value 1(Angle).
                                    If it seams like a must by request, Remebering 2nd values can of course be done, but I don't think it would be practical.

                                    I'm working on the next version with patterns, still lot's to do πŸ˜„
                                    I'm doing a comeback in coding, been off for a while..

                                    Hope this version will work OK for ya!

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                                      sergey2402
                                      last edited by

                                      It's great. Thank you so much, Jolran!

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                                      • jolranJ Offline
                                        jolran
                                        last edited by

                                        πŸ˜„

                                        Thanks, more coming soon.

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                                        • jolranJ Offline
                                          jolran
                                          last edited by

                                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=38637&p=341461#p341461

                                          New version added. Please read the help-file in the draw menu(if it's possible πŸ˜„ )

                                          It would be nice with feedback if it works on Mac.
                                          Some new stuff, but all is in the helpfile. Might do a tutorial later on, just for fun.

                                          /Joel

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                                          • jolranJ Offline
                                            jolran
                                            last edited by

                                            Yeiks!! Crosshatching is not working! Will fix that as soon as possible.

                                            edit: Actually it works. But be aware that (until fixed) if you have a negative value in 1st "angle" with crosshatching the crosshatching default value will be negative as well.
                                            So just erase the "-" sign in crosshacthing dialog.

                                            Also some geometry is created if cancelling in the crosshatching-menu.

                                            edited again πŸ˜„ Fixed for next version. Will be added in ver 1.9.

                                            Funny thing, been testing a lot but did miss this obvious thing.
                                            Sorry about that.

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