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    • brookefoxB Offline
      brookefox
      last edited by

      Well, thanks. I read your top notes, if that's what you mean (and the rest though less carefully). I see nothing about my question but don't doubt I may be missing it still.

      Trying your instruction doesn't work for me. Please see this pic:

      http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2294/areaacres1.jpg

      ~ Brooke

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        It's not so clear from your image what it is you are trying to tag...

        If the boundary edges between two faces are 'smoothed' [and not visible] then the picked/selected area-tag reports the area of the 'surface' - i.e. the two combined faces - otherwise each face gets an individual area-tag.

        If you want to show an area split into 'parcels' provided that the dividing lines don't split the face then the area-tag will refer to the underlying face. To stop the face splitting you could either leave a small gap in the line so there is no loop and therefore the face isn't split, or you could use a group to separate the 'dividing' lines from the face so that whilst the face might look like it was divided up it is not, OR draw two sets of faces - one set sub-divided and tagged individually and the other made as a copied group of faces on its own layer with dividing lines removed so there is one face to take the 'combined' tag... Also if you know the total area of a group of plots [found from a temporary outline say] you could add that to each tag's suffix - e.g. "Plot 1 <>\nof 12.3acres", "Plot 2 <>\nof 12.3acres" etc where each <> will contain the actual area, then if you adjust the dividing lines between plots an auto-recalc will adjust each plot's area but display the total consistently ?

        You can export a CSV file listing areas-tags and any text you might associate with the area-tags to help identify them. The total is easily got for the area-tags in a column...

        TIG

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        • brookefoxB Offline
          brookefox
          last edited by

          Thank you. My problem was with the 'visibility off', by which you were not referring to hidden or not as I had assumed, but rather to smoothing aspects.

          Work-arounds are easy enough.

          To clarify what I'm trying to tag:

          http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3326/areaacres2n.jpg

          ~ Brooke

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            If it's a single face it gets one area-tag - delete the intervening edges if it's all coplanar.
            If it's a single surface that's not coplanar you must 'smooth' the common edges between faces [not just 'hide' them] - i.e. with view>hidden-geometry 'on' use Erase+Ctrl. Then with view>hidden-geometry 'off' place an area-tag on one of the surface's faces - now it'll report the 'surface area' - i.e. the combined areas of all of the connected faces...

            TIG

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            • C Offline
              castaway
              last edited by

              Thank you for such a useful plugin, TIG.
              I am having some trouble with accents though, take a look at the screenshot, it should read "HABITACIÓ 1 ..." "HABITACIÓ 2..." and "DISTRIBUÏDOR". Should I change any setting to adjust the text language or character set?


              screenshot.1.jpeg

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                If you use those accented characters in 'plain' Text does it then work OK ?
                The tool should simply concatenate the same text/areas into one string...
                😕

                TIG

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                • C Offline
                  castaway
                  last edited by

                  Do you mean creating a text label through Tools > Text? If so then yes, accents are displayed just fine.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Here's v1.4 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=373717#p373717
                    The correct interpretation of UTF8 accented characters etc in customized area-tags has now been resolved.
                    ☀

                    TIG

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      OK...
                      You have the area-tags inside a locked-group.
                      It [should***] only reports on tags in the active_context.
                      So unlocking the group and editing it should then produce the CSV...
                      ***BUT it fails - I am investigating why... 😕
                      If I explode the group the area-tags export OK, BUT I notice the Unicode accented-character errors recurring - so I'll fix that at the same time...
                      Watch for an update soon...

                      TIG

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                      • C Offline
                        castaway
                        last edited by

                        Hi again,
                        I noticed the behaviour you described and was about to post about it when I saw your comment.
                        One more thing about the exported cvs file if I may: as you can see I am using the following structure for the labels: label name, a new line and the area. The exported cvs outputs exactly this, in the form of "LABEL NAME\n<>", which does not seem very clean. What I can do is run a "find and replace" operation for "\n<>" in LibreOffice and delete it, but imo it would be cleaner if that information was not in the cvs exported file.

                        Thanks for looking into this.

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                        • C Offline
                          castaway
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          Here's v1.4 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=373717#p373717
                          The correct interpretation of UTF8 accented characters etc in customized area-tags has now been resolved.
                          ☀

                          Wow, that was quick and effective. Now it works beautifully, thanks a lot!

                          I am having some trouble exporting to cvs though, the only contents of the exported file is "LAYER,TEXT,PERIM,AREA,UNITS". Perhaps I am doing something wrong, but I think I have followed the instructions properly (save as and then export to cvs). I am attaching you the skp file used in my tests.


                          areas_v4.skp

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Here's v1.5 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=373717#p373717

                            The CSV reporting is fixed - it now uses correctly accented UTF8 characters, and now reports Tags in the active context properly [so if they are inside a group edit that group before running the reporter].
                            It now also strips all '\n' from reported 'names'
                            It substitutes '/' if there is multi-line text, other than 'name\n<>' which becomes 'name' anyway, whereas 'name\nmore\n<>' becomes 'name / more' in the reported name.
                            If the name includes text other than '<>' then the '<>' is always omitted - so 'name <>' becomes 'name '.
                            However, a Tag with just a '<>' [or '<->'] is still reported as named '<>'.

                            TIG

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                            • C Offline
                              castaway
                              last edited by

                              I just tested it and works perfectly, I wish I had a hat to take of to you. Thank you so much!

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                              • Z Offline
                                ZFRPS
                                last edited by

                                Dear Tig:
                                good job!The CSV reporting is my want,Very slow when reporting ....
                                01.jpg

                                sketchup is bim

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Its 'slowness' is because it must find all text-tags in the current context by sifting out other things, then it must 'update' them in case a tagged face has changed since the last update, it also must check for tags that are no longer glued to a face and ignore them, and also for duplicate tags placed on the same face and so on [this can be done beforehand using 'Update' manually, which might speed up the CSV a little]... the writing of the CSV file itself is relatively quick once the updating concludes... 😉

                                  I noticed that your CSV toolbar button icon is missing - I have missed it out of the subfolder set.
                                  I'll add it to any future updates, but meanwhile if you substitute/add these two PNG files into the tool's subfolder it will fix the missing icon...


                                  AreaTextTag-report-16x16.png


                                  AreaTextTag-report-24x24.png

                                  TIG

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                                  • Z Offline
                                    ZFRPS
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear Tig:
                                    Here amount only:1001006=60000;slow !!Half an hour past it no finish!
                                    if csv change to xml ?
                                    or other way ?

                                    Thanks again !

                                    sketchup is bim

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                                    • Z Offline
                                      ZFRPS
                                      last edited by

                                      OK!
                                      Irrespective !
                                      I only look forward to it change to very very quickly !

                                      Your job is great for all SU-FANS,I love you !

                                      THANKS AGAIN

                                      sketchup is bim

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                                      • A Offline
                                        ArCAD-UK
                                        last edited by

                                        TIG, Many thanks for developing this.

                                        I have just downloaded the RBZ and have tried a few variations of tagging but keep getting zero perimeters. The areas are working as expected with simple rectangles and no grouping. Bug or have I missed something?

                                        Update: If I change "Report Surface Area" to Yes then perimeter is reported.

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @arcad-uk said:

                                          TIG, Many thanks for developing this.

                                          I have just downloaded the RBZ and have tried a few variations of tagging but keep getting zero perimeters. The areas are working as expected with simple rectangles and no grouping. Bug or have I missed something?

                                          Update: If I change "Report Surface Area" to Yes then perimeter is reported.
                                          You must apply an area tag directly onto a face.... how the hell is it going to know what face to use if you apply it onto a group or instance ?
                                          So... in the same [edit] context as the face you want to tag pick that face to add an area tag onto it.
                                          If you later export those tags from that context into a CSV file the faces' areas and the faces' perimeters are returned...
                                          The 'surface'=Yes tag is intended for adding area-tags to bound-faces that are 'facets' with hidden/smoothed edges, forming a 'surface' where you want the one area reported for all of them together, getting the perimeter of a 'surface' is much more complex than with a face [in fact it's too complex!]...

                                          TIG

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                                          • A Offline
                                            ArCAD-UK
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi TIG, as per my update I was advising that with "surface" = No then the perimeter is not exported to the CSV which is what I was expecting. I now understand your reasoning and will default to "surface" = Yes.

                                            Just a suggestion, reporting the perimeter in both modes may be more logical to the end user, but you know better than most what can be achieved with the coding.

                                            Thanks again for another great contribution!

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