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    • A Offline
      azz00
      last edited by

      Hi everyone,

      I am currently studying Architecture and I have built a quick site massing model on Sketchup. Now that I have done this I wanted to put it through programs such as Ecotect and Vasari. However, because I used the sandbox for the gradient of the site, the model looks a complete mess on Ecotect because it has exported the hidden geometry as lines?

      Is there anyway to export the model from Sketchup without the hidden geometry? Or anyway of smoothing the lines in Ecotect?

      I have tried exporting in a number of different formats but all with the same results.

      Thanks!

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Well, that geometry is needed to maintain the curved surfaces. It's actually not "hidden" but "softened" geometry but anyway, if you leave that out, you will lose the facets they support.

        I do not know this Ecotect software but you need to find a way to soften this geometry there. What format are you exporting in?

        Gai...

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        • A Offline
          azz00
          last edited by

          Yeah I see what you mean. I have tried exporting in .3ds .obj .dxf

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            In 3ds export options, there is a "weld vertices" (or what) checkbox.

            Gai...

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Exporting in OBJ for example will ignore hidden edges that are NOT needed to define a face.
              What you describe is actually the smoothed edges that are needed by the face[t]s that combine to make the surface mesh.
              Most exporters also triangulate faces, as app's like renderers expect this.
              Most exporters contain 'vertex' data that ells the importing app if an edge is smoothed or not.
              So If I export as OBJ to a renderer it will know what edges are smoothed and what are 'sharp'. Renderers usually only display faces so the edges are not shown except in how they impinge on a 'mesh' and thereby change how the faces look when rendered.
              The code used by other importers can be less precise.
              For example if you are reimporting an OBJ file [e.g. using Fluid Free Importer] into a SKP then edges that were originally smoothed may well appear 'solid'...
              This could be the case with your own app's importer...
              Are there any settings to cover 'smoothness' ?
              Here's some examples:-
              Original SKP with different mesh smooth/hidden edge settings:CaptureSKP.PNG Exported as OBJ and Rendered [low-res Octane] edge settings are important in how the surfaces get represented - this shows that edge 'smoothness' settings are passed in the exported OBJ file: sss.pngThe OBJ file reimported into SKP, looses all edge settings [note the OBJ's triangulation of the original quad facets]: CaptureSKPin.PNG

              TIG

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              • A Offline
                azz00
                last edited by

                Cheers for the replies. Looks like I am going to have to try and find a way to sort it out in Ecotect!

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Skimming through Ecotect someone raised the same question in 2005!
                  You can't hide smooth edges in the imported data-set or presentations - as far as I can tell...
                  That's typical of 'AutoDesk' issues - it'll analyze the kneecaps off a gnat, but it can't do the easier stuff !

                  TIG

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                  • A Offline
                    azz00
                    last edited by

                    Ha, I could not agree more!

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