Closer to object.

wagabund · 13 Jan 2012, 12:16

Something happened with my sketchup and i can't move closer to the object.

Somebody knows how to change it?

Gaieus · 13 Jan 2012, 12:25

It seems to be clipping. See if any of the solutions apply below:
http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=36261

Also, you have some (completely unrelated) issue with reversed faces. We should only see white faces and never those ugly, blue back faces.

mitcorb · 13 Jan 2012, 12:30

Hi, wagabund:
Your model appears to have a classic issue with either too large a model or too far from the Global Origin in the model space. See the link below:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1063&start=0

After you have solved that problem, you should focus attention on the reversed gray faces in the image. These will eventually give you more problems if you assign materials, textures, colors to them.

mitcorb · 13 Jan 2012, 12:33

Ah, well. Nothing like reinforcing the point.

wagabund · 13 Jan 2012, 12:34

This is it. Everything working now. Thanks a lot for fast answer.

Gaieus · 13 Jan 2012, 12:40

@mitcorb said:

Ah, well. Nothing like reinforcing the point.

At least two of us seem to have the same ideas. Promising for Wagabund!

And welcome, Wagabund (I like your username! )

So what was the issue then? (Quite a couple of things can cause this)

oganocali · 13 Jan 2012, 13:25

I usually run into this problem when I place a transparent face between me and the object.
Ogan

wagabund · 13 Jan 2012, 13:49

I had a strange object, far away from global orgin. I have no idea how and when he got there. He was on Google Earth Snapshot layer.

Gaieus · 13 Jan 2012, 13:51

Interesting. But it explains the effect at least.

jgb · 19 Jan 2012, 22:37

Clipping as you get close is a perennial problem. I suffered it in spades when I started with SU years ago. I asked several times on the old SU BBS, and got no solutions.

Then I discovered SketchUcation, so I asked here, and Catamountain (whatever happened to her??) solved it.

As you start zooming in and get clipping, select some face, as a reference to where you are going.
Turn OFF Perspective.

The view will zoom out considerably.

Then zoom in to the selection, and keep going till you get close enough to whatever.

I have gotten close enough that a line fragment only .001 inch filled the screen. Note the cursor or tool will start getting jerky as you get in real close, and sometimes selecting an entity becomes a bit dicey.

When done with the closeup, zoom out before you turn back on the perspective.

arail1 · 20 Jan 2012, 01:03

@jgb said:

Clipping as you get close is a perennial problem. I suffered it in spades when I started with SU years ago. I asked several times on the old SU BBS, and got no solutions.

Then I discovered SketchUcation, so I asked here, and Catamountain (whatever happened to her??) solved it.

As you start zooming in and get clipping, select some face, as a reference to where you are going.
Turn OFF Perspective.

The view will zoom out considerably.

Then zoom in to the selection, and keep going till you get close enough to whatever.

I have gotten close enough that a line fragment only .001 inch filled the screen. Note the cursor or tool will start getting jerky as you get in real close, and sometimes selecting an entity becomes a bit dicey.

When done with the closeup, zoom out before you turn back on the perspective.

That is a great tip. Thanks for that. I'm always plagued by the inability to get close to details in SketchUp so this will be a great help to me.

rtd · 20 Jan 2012, 22:21

I haven't had many problems zooming in, but after zooming in and editing an object, SU seems to forget how to zoom back out. Many 'rolls' of the scroll wheel have no effect. I have to zoom extents, then work back to where I want to be from that position. It's annoying since building projects are generally large and zooming in to a detail is frequently done.

mitcorb · 21 Jan 2012, 13:44

As I understand it, your observation is due to the fact that the camera has to "focus" on geometry in its field of view in order to calculate rate of zoom. If you encounter this condition, simply select on something in the view, then scroll out. The actions are all calculated by proportions by the display program OpenGL.

jgb · 21 Jan 2012, 18:44

Or to put it another way, the wheel zoom rate is proportional to the apparent distance from you (camera) to the object directly under the cursor (even if not selected). So the closer you are the "slower" the zoom. And that also accounts for the so-called "Hyper-Pan" or "Hyper-Zoom" when your cursor lands on empty space during repeated zooms or pans.

The best recourse after a very slow zoom or when in deep space is to "View Extents" which will ballpark you to your object. "Previous View" is only good for the last 3 or 4 positions before cycling back.

Another trick is to create a temporary scene before zooming in if you are going to be in close for multiple operations, and need to get back out to a common viewpoint multiple times.