Recommended SketchUp PC within $3.8k-$4.0k- Needs advice

brodie · 2 Nov 2011, 23:26

I've got 2 ViewSonic VP2365wb's ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116421 ) and really like them. One of the least expensive monitors out there with an IPS display and 23" is a good size for me with dual monitors. Much bigger and you'd be turning your neck a lot. Also the stands are wonderful - very sturdy and crazy adjustable.

-Brodie

solo · 2 Nov 2011, 23:38

@utiler said:

SO what model NVIDIA card are you running, Pete?

Actually, what is the make up of your main components? Processor / RAM / GC?

IMO, I don't see the point in a large monitor like a few of you guys are sugggesting. Unless the monitor is sitting across the room from you!!! I work at a 1.0m deep workstation and have a 24 inch Samsung SyncMaster which is just right for viewing.... The other thing to note on larger screens is how fast your mouse needs to operate as well as having to lift and roll the damn thing just to get across the screen!!!!!

I have a few desktops (networked) that all run Geforce 260's and a Viao laptop with a geforce gt 410.

Rich O Brien · 2 Nov 2011, 23:44

We should start a 'show us yer workspace' thread. It'd be fun and very revealing.

utiler · 3 Nov 2011, 00:05

mmmmm....Just out getting a smoothie.

Gaieus · 3 Nov 2011, 00:09

Ah, it's getting Summer down under, Andrew, right?

Rich O Brien · 3 Nov 2011, 00:11

Here's mine.........and no one sees what i do

utiler · 3 Nov 2011, 00:25

@gaieus said:

Ah, it's getting Summer down under, Andrew, right?

You bet, Csaba... preparing for hot summer night, cold beer, prawn skewers and boardshort....

Krisidious · 3 Nov 2011, 01:14

I have to disagree with the 42" not being good for rendering or computer usage, I use one and it's about 2 foot from my face. renderings look fantastic on it and I get better frame rates that my 3 Digital monitors, whats-more when working on 24x36 inch standard architectural drawings it's a wonderful thing to have it up to that scale. as for retinal burn... I spend many hours a day staring at all these screens. I haven't had any issues that I know of, I have astigmatism and have for many many years.

brodie · 3 Nov 2011, 12:46

@krisidious said:

I have to disagree with the 42" not being good for rendering or computer usage, I use one and it's about 2 foot from my face. renderings look fantastic on it and I get better frame rates that my 3 Digital monitors, whats-more when working on 24x36 inch standard architectural drawings it's a wonderful thing to have it up to that scale. as for retinal burn... I spend many hours a day staring at all these screens. I haven't had any issues that I know of, I have astigmatism and have for many many years.

Hehe, nevertheless, reminds me a lot of this story I found a long time ago.

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/tag/employee-of-the-month/

-Brodie

solo · 3 Nov 2011, 12:55

I run on a 42" Vizio Edge Lit Razor LED LCD HDTV, and the color and image is superb, I sit 4 feet away from screen, I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also that is closer (L shaped work area)

I have now used TV's as main monitors for almost 5 years without any eye issues.

jeff hammond · 3 Nov 2011, 13:07

@solo said:

I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also

so that's three people in this thread that own a 24" syncmaster (i have one too).

mine is a little over 5 years old and it recently quit working.. (still powered up-- just a blank black screen though) i had it fixed for $70..

so, when you guys' samsung takes a dive, consider taking it in for a repair instead of trashing/rebuying (or, if you know how to solder, fix it yourself for $5 worth of capacitors)

solo · 3 Nov 2011, 13:12

@unknownuser said:

@solo said:

I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also

so that's three people in this thread that own a 24" syncmaster (i have one too).

mine is a little over 5 years old and it recently quit working.. (still powered up-- just a blank black screen though) i had it fixed for $70..

so, when you guys' samsung takes a dive, consider taking it in for a repair instead of trashing/rebuying (or, if you know how to solder, fix it yourself for $5 worth of capacitors)

Mine is also about 5 years old, so far the screen is fine, the hinge on the arm gave out after a year but that's no problem as I McGyvered it.

Gaieus · 3 Nov 2011, 17:07

Mine is only 22" and just about 2.5 years old so I think I still have some time.

utiler · 4 Nov 2011, 05:29

Just not for me guys, I think I'll stick to my 24' and be done with it. Interesting though that TV's work well as monitors....

Krisidious · 4 Nov 2011, 20:53

@utiler said:

Just not for me guys, I think I'll stick to my 24' and be done with it. Interesting though that TV's work well as monitors....

24' damn that's huge... I gotta see it...

utiler · 4 Nov 2011, 22:35

You know what i mean, Kris...... Bloody imperial!!!!

Krisidious · 17 Nov 2011, 11:37

onzki · 24 Nov 2011, 19:13

Hi, sorry to butt in again But thanks for all the advice in this thread, even the conversation on graphic card & monitors are cool:) Wow, seems like all you have a nice workstation setup. I can't wait to have mine in the future.
Just for update, I haven't finalize my choice yet even up to this moment and my boss is still bugging me daily to get the Alienware lol . Now my choice gets harder when our admin manager opened an option for a Mac pro (8-core version). But like what Solo & other guys mentioned above, Mac only offers ATI cards and after looking at different negative comments on web, It's difficult to take the risk.

Image below is my current short list, and here's my remarks, open for comments/suggestions:

Alienware ALX 51 - my office might get this, being tied to Dell since day one. I like the i7 980x benchmark but I don't need those cool light effects & vents. Does SLI boosts SKU performance? I also fear the common overheating issues discussed on web.
Dell Precision T7500 - this is a possible upgrade to my T3500, which is not performing well. Xeon x5675 is close in rank with i7980x benchmark. Quadro 4000 seems good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKP-bLcS2X4
Boxx 3970xTreme- I'm tempted with CPU @4.5ghz memory at 2133 and SSD. Does SSD boosts SKU performance? I'm worried for future maintenance parts/repairs. They only have reseller here in Hong Kong. I fear the very noisy fan as shown in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_ys2kOsLs , my colleagues are seated just 2 feet away I hope being overclocked doesn't mean prone to overheat. I plan to use this about 14hrs, Mon-Fri.
Mac Pro - two processor is also tempting, though Xeon model wasn't specified. My worries on availability/price/compatibility with AutoCAD software and ATI's performance with SKU.
Shortlist:

brodie · 28 Nov 2011, 13:36

My company is tied into Dell as well. That's why we went with the Studio XPS 9100 with the specs below. I just had a friend by the same model recently and I think they've bumped the CPU from the 980x to the 990x. I didn't look into any of those computers in particular. My guess is that there would probably be very little noticeable difference between them but I understand the fretting that goes on. All I can say is that I'm very pleased by the performance I have.

I don't know the answers to your questions but an SSD should help SU start up a bit faster. And if you need to access anything else on that HD it should be access it faster as well. But it wouldn't improve your viewport performance of course.

SLI would probably improve performance for rendering textures and shadows (the 2 things the GPU does - geometry is handled by 1 core of your CPU) but I can't promise that.

-Brodie

onzki · 29 Nov 2011, 17:21

@unknownuser said:

SLI would probably improve performance for rendering textures and shadows (the 2 things the GPU does - geometry is handled by 1 core of your CPU) but I can't promise that.
-Brodie

Thanks Brodie, Our office ordered the Alienware, boss preferred it more. Might arrive in a week. I'll just hope for the best. Maybe in future SKU versions, GPU rendering will be one of the features so I can take advantage of SLI. Cheers:)