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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      @pitrak said:

      Solo,
      I don't want to hijack this thread, but can you elaborate a bit on the nvidia vs AMD idea?

      I'm in the market for a laptop based on a clevo barebone and I have the choice between the Geforce 560M (3Dmark06 15000) and AMD 6990M (23000). Nvidia was my obvious choice at first, but when I started looking for the advantages of CUDA I started doubting. Some minor accelerations in adobe CS5 for supported CPUs (slower or way more expensive quadros), CPU rendering in Octane (which I don't use).

      For the rest I have the impression most software developers support both AMD & Nvidia. OpenCL seems the way to go, although it's not clear how well it will work and how widely it will be adopted. I hope CS6 will be OpenCL and not CUDA accelerated, but that's not clear yet.

      So any other good reasons to go for the slower and cheaper 560m?

      I expained above what I feel concerning AMD?ATI cards, however after reading your post again I noticed the last sentence.

      I say there is NO good reason for going for a 560m as that is an integrated chip, my advice is never to get a machine with an integrated graphics card, rather spend a few extra $$ and get a dedicated card.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • P Offline
        pitrak
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        Thanks a lot for all the advice, I'll stick with nvidia then!

        Solo, this is the laptop card, it's a dedicated one: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX560M 1.5Gb GDDR5, PhysX™ + CUDA™ ready

        It's a BTO laptop (dutch, sorry). I was doubting between this and the Radeon 6990m. But when looking again at their site, it seems they have removed the GTX560m option! Now I can only choose between the Radeon and the GTX580m which is really expensive..

        Or take the cheaper P-book with the GT555 (no cuda, does have optimus, which is good for battery life.

        Buggers, I thought the choice was made...

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Well, the gtx 580 is a really good card. If you have this big budget, why not go for it?

          Gai...

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            @unknownuser said:

            Solo, this is the laptop card, it's a dedicated one: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX560M 1.5Gb GDDR5, PhysX™ + CUDA™ ready

            Ah, okay I thought it was integrated chip like this:

            http://techgage.com/images/news/nvidia_geforce_gtx560m_053011.jpg

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            • utilerU Offline
              utiler
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              SO what model NVIDIA card are you running, Pete?

              Actually, what is the make up of your main components? Processor / RAM / GC?

              IMO, I don't see the point in a large monitor like a few of you guys are sugggesting. Unless the monitor is sitting across the room from you!!! I work at a 1.0m deep workstation and have a 24 inch Samsung SyncMaster which is just right for viewing.... The other thing to note on larger screens is how fast your mouse needs to operate as well as having to lift and roll the damn thing just to get across the screen!!!!!

              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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              • brodieB Offline
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                I've got 2 ViewSonic VP2365wb's ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116421 ) and really like them. One of the least expensive monitors out there with an IPS display and 23" is a good size for me with dual monitors. Much bigger and you'd be turning your neck a lot. Also the stands are wonderful - very sturdy and crazy adjustable.

                -Brodie

                steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
                  last edited by

                  @utiler said:

                  SO what model NVIDIA card are you running, Pete?

                  Actually, what is the make up of your main components? Processor / RAM / GC?

                  IMO, I don't see the point in a large monitor like a few of you guys are sugggesting. Unless the monitor is sitting across the room from you!!! I work at a 1.0m deep workstation and have a 24 inch Samsung SyncMaster which is just right for viewing.... The other thing to note on larger screens is how fast your mouse needs to operate as well as having to lift and roll the damn thing just to get across the screen!!!!!

                  I have a few desktops (networked) that all run Geforce 260's and a Viao laptop with a geforce gt 410.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    We should start a 'show us yer workspace' thread. It'd be fun and very revealing.

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
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                      mmmmm....Just out getting a smoothie.


                      OfficeChairBeach.jpg

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
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                        Ah, it's getting Summer down under, Andrew, right?

                        Gai...

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          Here's mine.........and no one sees what i do

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                          • utilerU Offline
                            utiler
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                            @gaieus said:

                            Ah, it's getting Summer down under, Andrew, right?

                            You bet, Csaba... preparing for hot summer night, cold beer, prawn skewers and boardshort.... 😍

                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
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                              I have to disagree with the 42" not being good for rendering or computer usage, I use one and it's about 2 foot from my face. renderings look fantastic on it and I get better frame rates that my 3 Digital monitors, whats-more when working on 24x36 inch standard architectural drawings it's a wonderful thing to have it up to that scale. as for retinal burn... I spend many hours a day staring at all these screens. I haven't had any issues that I know of, I have astigmatism and have for many many years.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • brodieB Offline
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                                @krisidious said:

                                I have to disagree with the 42" not being good for rendering or computer usage, I use one and it's about 2 foot from my face. renderings look fantastic on it and I get better frame rates that my 3 Digital monitors, whats-more when working on 24x36 inch standard architectural drawings it's a wonderful thing to have it up to that scale. as for retinal burn... I spend many hours a day staring at all these screens. I haven't had any issues that I know of, I have astigmatism and have for many many years.

                                Hehe, nevertheless, reminds me a lot of this story I found a long time ago.

                                http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/tag/employee-of-the-month/

                                -Brodie

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                                • soloS Offline
                                  solo
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                                  I run on a 42" Vizio Edge Lit Razor LED™ LCD HDTV, and the color and image is superb, I sit 4 feet away from screen, I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also that is closer (L shaped work area)

                                  I have now used TV's as main monitors for almost 5 years without any eye issues.

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
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                                    @solo said:

                                    I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also

                                    so that's three people in this thread that own a 24" syncmaster (i have one too).

                                    mine is a little over 5 years old and it recently quit working.. (still powered up-- just a blank black screen though) i had it fixed for $70..

                                    so, when you guys' samsung takes a dive, consider taking it in for a repair instead of trashing/rebuying (or, if you know how to solder, fix it yourself for $5 worth of capacitors)

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      @solo said:

                                      I have a Samsung Syncmaster 24" also

                                      so that's three people in this thread that own a 24" syncmaster (i have one too).

                                      mine is a little over 5 years old and it recently quit working.. (still powered up-- just a blank black screen though) i had it fixed for $70..

                                      so, when you guys' samsung takes a dive, consider taking it in for a repair instead of trashing/rebuying (or, if you know how to solder, fix it yourself for $5 worth of capacitors)

                                      Mine is also about 5 years old, so far the screen is fine, the hinge on the arm gave out after a year but that's no problem as I McGyvered it.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Mine is only 22" and just about 2.5 years old so I think I still have some time. 😄

                                        Gai...

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                                        • utilerU Offline
                                          utiler
                                          last edited by

                                          Just not for me guys, I think I'll stick to my 24' and be done with it. Interesting though that TV's work well as monitors....

                                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                                            Krisidious
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                                            @utiler said:

                                            Just not for me guys, I think I'll stick to my 24' and be done with it. Interesting though that TV's work well as monitors....

                                            24' damn that's huge... I gotta see it... 😎

                                            By: Kristoff Rand
                                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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