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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Doesn't this call for a [gluing/cutting] component that you then copy with Move+Ctrl in an array with NNx later for the story-heights ?

      TIG

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      • brodieB Offline
        brodie
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        I think you lost me at NNx. Can you explain a bit further what you mean?

        -Brodie

        steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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        • TIGT Offline
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          last edited by

          You make a component with the form you want.
          Then repeat it adding its instances in the horizontal, keeping a collection/selection of all of the instances.
          Now copy the collection/selection in the vertical at a give height a number of time [NNx]...

          TIG

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          • brodieB Offline
            brodie
            last edited by

            Hrm, let me see if I understand what you're saying I'd basically just hand create the bottom layer and make a group of it. Then copy that up, go into the group and adjust the height for each level. Then go back and delete the squares where the windows are? Is that about what you're getting at?

            -Brodie

            steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @unknownuser said:

              Not if I select all geometry on 'From scratch' and then choose shrink. Otherwise it works flawlessly.

              hm... I see. I just so happen to behave like this in 3DsMax as well. But this might not be desirable. But in order cases you might want that; if you selected parts up against a corner, the selection "sticks" to the corner while shrinking. What's desired behavior could be 50/50.

              @unknownuser said:

              The are occasions where some faces are selected outside the boundary though but I'm sure it me and not your plugin.

              Can you give an example of this?

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              • B Offline
                bjornkn
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                I would definitely build those walls with components.
                Like in this screen dump showing 9 different panels. all made as uniques from the same original, and one window component. The panels do not cut holes, but the window does. But you don't really need any wall behind the components anyway.Clipboard-1.jpg
                Those extra lines are just for helping aligning such flat comps. They don't usually export anyway, but could be hidden or deleted after the wall/building is finished.

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                • brodieB Offline
                  brodie
                  last edited by

                  The problem I see with that is that I have no good reason to maintain all individual panels as components. There are a lot of panels but the overall number of polygons is pretty small nevertheless. So there's no real intensive in terms of memory.

                  There's also no intensive in terms of flexibility. It's not uncommon for things to change in terms of wall dimensions, joint locations etc. In your version if one vertical joint moved left by 6" you'd have to make all of the components on either side unique, go into each one, and adjust. If all the panels were lumped together you could make one careful selection and just move the vertical joint in one go.

                  And I don't see a speed intensive. If I only had a handful of sizes to keep track of that's one thing but on one job I'd probably end up with 50ish unique sizes - too many to keep track of. The fastest way to do it with this method I think would be to create a panel, copy to new location, adjust the size, copy, move, adjust, etc. all along the bottom, then copy those up to the next level and just adjust the height for off of them at once, etc. I do like the idea of being able to just create one level but I don't think this copy, adjust method would be faster than creating an offset for each panel and moving the middle portion out for all the panels at once.

                  Am I misunderstanding your method at all?

                  -Brodie

                  steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                  • B Offline
                    bjornkn
                    last edited by

                    Well, my experience is that such panels come in standard module sizes, and most of them use those sizes.
                    But if you end up with more comps than you can handle you could just as well make them groups, and just move/copy sideways sideways. For non-modular joints you just select and group all affected panels on each side, explode all groups/comps and move the joint wherever you want it in one go.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Am I misunderstanding your method at all?

                    If you can't see the speed/flexibility benefits you either didn't quite understand it, or your work methods are very different from mine?

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                    • brodieB Offline
                      brodie
                      last edited by

                      Here's an image of how I'm understanding the two methods. I'm conceding that it's faster to just do the bottom row first, and use it to create each of the other horizontal rows going up. I think the method you're talking about is shown on the top. Let me know if I'm misunderstanding.

                      1. This would be the geometry brought in from Autocad although it should just be lines, not faces.

                      2. Create a single panel, make it a group

                      3. Copy the group all along the horizontal row, enter each group, select a polygon, move it to give the panel the correct length

                      4. Select all panel groups, explode, create one overall group, move/copy up to all horizontal rows, enter each group select all top polygons and move to correct height

                      In the other method I'm talking about which is on bottom

                      1. Original geometry

                      2. Offset all of bottom row by 1"

                      3. Select each inside rectangle, move all 1" out to create panels,

                      4. Same as in first method although explode is unnecessary

                      Does that illustrate the difference, do you think?

                      I should mention that these aren't modular panels. They're representing an EIFS wall which is a bit like stucco. The joints are a bit exaggerated to show up in renderings better.

                      -Brodie


                      fo sho.jpg

                      steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                      • B Offline
                        bjornkn
                        last edited by

                        Method 1 is similar to how I would've done it, except that I would rather make a vertical row(column) first, because that would make it easier to select (unless it is a very tall building).

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