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    • liquid98L Offline
      liquid98
      last edited by

      I know, I'm a complete outsider in this discussion, but I have a question and an idea.

      My question: In what debugging situations is it necessary to restart Sketchup?

      And my idea:

      A plugin that resets Sketchup to it's initial state. So you never have to restart SU or manually reload a plugin to test a script.

      Things that flourish fall into decay. This is not-Tao, And what is not-Tao soon ends ~ Lao tse

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @liquid98 said:

        I know, I'm a complete outsider in this discussion, but I have a question and an idea.

        My question: In what debugging situations is it necessary to restart Sketchup?

        And my idea:

        A plugin that resets Sketchup to it's initial state. So you never have to restart SU or manually reload a plugin to test a script.

        If your script makes menu items or toolbars you will [usually] have trapped it with file_loaded() so you don't get multiple entries... so if you change those reloading the script won't affect those... but otherwise any code changes are usually reflected in the tool's operation without a need to restart if you use load "myscript.rb"....... if you tool has decent start/commit blocks to undo what it's just done [incorrectly] you rarely need to restart Sketchup after tweaking your code...

        TIG

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @liquid98 said:

          My question: In what debugging situations is it necessary to restart Sketchup?

          In additions to what TIG mentioned in regard to menus, you might want to restart after doing some major refactoring where you might have renamed methods etc. You might still be calling the old method.
          And there might be things your plugin has to do at startup, such as some observers. But it belong to the rare cases.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • liquid98L Offline
            liquid98
            last edited by

            Thanx guys,

            I'm working with dynamic screen notes and dynamic tooltips, and have to restart SU all the time to get them
            refreshed.. But that's not common for most plugins I suppose.

            Things that flourish fall into decay. This is not-Tao, And what is not-Tao soon ends ~ Lao tse

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            • Dan RathbunD Offline
              Dan Rathbun
              last edited by

              A tooltip for a UI::Command instance object can be changed at ANY time, simply by calling the instance object's tooltip= method, with an argument that is different than what the current tooltip text is.

              This means that you must make and keep available, a reference (sloppily called a variable,) to that instance object, so you can later call it's instance methods.

              You can also change the status bar text and the validation proc dynamically in the same way.

              I'm not here much anymore.

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              • T Offline
                tomot
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                Its enough to make a grown man cry! It only took me 3 hours to find the 2 letter typing error. I hope this is not age related? 😳 There was no hint of a problem in the Ruby console, Notepad++ or SciTE. Its enough to make one 🀒

                if( @stud != "YES" )   
                    #...get the number of joists required for the related @vec/@joc
                    #...@soc = joist on center spacing 
                    @num_stud=((@vec/@soc)+1).to_i 
                    
                    definitions=model.definitions
                    count=definitions.add
                    entities=count.entities
                   
                    #...draw 1st stud
                    base=entities.add_face(@pt1, @pt3, @pt33, @pt11) 
                    base=entities.add_line(@pt1, @pt33)
                    base=entities.add_line(@pt3, @pt11)
                    
                    #...transform stud location 
                    t=Geom;;Transformation.translation(Geom;;Vector3d.new(0, 0, 0))
                    entities=model.active_entities
                    
                    entities.add_instance(count, t)
                    
                    #...copy studs to their new locations
                    i = 1
                    while i < @num_stud
                       # Transformation
                       i = i + 1
                       vec = @pt5 - @pt6 # width between which studs are to be drawn
                       vec.length = @soc*(i-1)
                       t=Geom;;Transformation.translation(Geom;;Vector3d.new(0,@soc*(i-1), 0))
                       t=Geom;;Transformation.translation(vec)
                       entities.add_instance(count, t)
                    end
                end if # end if @stud
                

                I feel better now!

                [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                tomot

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
                  last edited by

                  line 7: no argument for the instance method DefinitionsList.add()

                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                  • T Offline
                    tomot
                    last edited by

                    @dan rathbun said:

                    line 7: no argument for the instance method DefinitionsList.add()

                    No that's not it ! ..... nice try!..... try again?

                    [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                    tomot

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                    • J Offline
                      Jim
                      last edited by

                      end if!

                      Hi

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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
                        last edited by

                        @tomot said:

                        @dan rathbun said:

                        line 7: no argument for the instance method DefinitionsList.add()

                        No that's not it ! ..... nice try!..... try again?

                        Wow... that's strange! An empty argument creates a new definition, whose name is "Component". The API does not mention this!!!

                        And Jim.. got it correct... although I would think Ruby would issue a ScriptError, something like "blah blah blah...`end' expected"

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                        • T Offline
                          tomot
                          last edited by

                          yup! Jim is right!. So back to the initial subject, is there a debug routine for such errors?
                          your editor should be causing a high pitch sound for end if or at least a blicking, or bouncing simile. πŸŽ‰

                          [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                          tomot

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                          • J Offline
                            Jim
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                            I was going to suggest checking the syntax, but you would need to have Ruby version 1.8.6 installed (not a bad idea if you are developing plugins.)

                            $ ruby -c plugin.rb plugin.rb:32: syntax error, unexpected $end

                            Hi

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                            • T Offline
                              tomot
                              last edited by

                              @jim said:

                              I was going to suggest checking the syntax, but you would need to have Ruby version 1.8.6 installed (not a bad idea if you are developing plugins.)

                              $ ruby -c plugin.rb plugin.rb:32: syntax error, unexpected $end

                              Jim: you have helped me with a few rubies I have posted here in the past,
                              would you please elaborate on I would install Ruby version 1.8.6 within the current Ruby/SU environment.
                              Currently I simply use NotePad ++ or SciTE to edit and develop my SketchUp Rubies.

                              [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                              tomot

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                              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                Dan Rathbun
                                last edited by

                                Ruby Binary Installer:

                                • Ruby (v1.8.6-p287) Windows One-Click Installer

                                then use...

                                Ruby LOAD PATHs script (Win32) : ver 3.0.1

                                I'm not here much anymore.

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                                • T Offline
                                  tomot
                                  last edited by

                                  @dan rathbun said:

                                  @tomot said:

                                  @dan rathbun said:

                                  line 7: no argument for the instance method DefinitionsList.add()

                                  No that's not it ! ..... nice try!..... try again?

                                  Wow... that's strange! An empty argument creates a new definition, whose name is "Component". The API does not mention this!!!

                                  And Jim.. got it correct... although I would think Ruby would issue a ScriptError, something like "blah blah blah...`end' expected"

                                  Dan, FYI, I have used that particular code several times to space entities between 2 know points, equally. I don't recall who helped me with the original code, many years ago.

                                  [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                                  tomot

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                                  • T Offline
                                    tomot
                                    last edited by

                                    @jim said:

                                    Ruby Toolbar started - on Windows, it can open/close the Ruby Console, Clear it, and load/reload a file.

                                    Jim: I get the following error when starting SU


                                    error.jpg

                                    [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                                    tomot

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by

                                      You need WIn32API.so

                                      v186_p287_so.zip

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                      • B Offline
                                        brian_concannon
                                        last edited by

                                        I have written a debugger for Sketchup plugins with watches and breakpoints. Why isn't such a debugger already available? Would it be a good contribution to the community? The breakpoints based on watched variable changes seem like the best part.

                                        Download the user guide that I attached.

                                        It needs some work yet, as it processes only the Ruby snytax that I have
                                        programmed with myself. It is a VB6 app. It would be free.

                                        Quote message
                                        Face2Face plugin - autoextrusion between faces
                                        Sent: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:58 pm
                                        by brian_concannon

                                        TIG,

                                        I posted the plugin as you suggested, in the Resources/Plugins forum. It is being downloaded like crazy!

                                        I hope you make it part of your Edgedraw plugins somehow.

                                        anyway, I have written a debugger for Sketchup plugins with watches and breakpoints. Why isn't such a debugger already available? Would it be a good contribution to the community?

                                        Quote message
                                        Re: Face2Face plugin - autoextrusion between faces
                                        Sent: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:16 pm
                                        From: TIG
                                        To: brian_concannon

                                        It would probably be a useful adjunct.
                                        Why not post in the Developers' forum with a new thread.
                                        You don't need to post the whole of your code, just some ideas to get a discussion rolling...
                                        Thomthom, Jim and Dan are more in debugging etc than I am. I manually slog through with my own return nils, breaks, testing puts, UI.messageboxe, refreshes etc till I get it to work


                                        setup file (text)

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          @brian_concannon said:

                                          I manually slog through with my own return nils, breaks, testing puts, UI.messageboxe, refreshes etc till I get it to work

                                          That's my method of debugging as well. A debugger would be welcome. There is one out there already SuRDebug: http://code.google.com/p/surdebug/wiki/SuRDebug

                                          I never got around to fully make it work... 😞

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • B Offline
                                            brian_concannon
                                            last edited by

                                            I tried SurDebug early on and could not make it work either. I was told that the author got angry about some criticism, and he stopped working on it. There were no recent posts about it at the site that you show.

                                            Debuggifier's concept is not as nice as the SurDebug concept, as it inserts debug statements after every Ruby statement in all or part of the code. It can be commented / uncommented at will, and totally removed ("undebuggified") when the Plugin development is complete. But I found it necessary to develop for my own programming, because Ruby is so hard to program with. Anyone using a true IDE knows this.

                                            I will clean up Debuggifier a little and then post it. Since it is an EXE and requires VB6 DLL's to be installed with InstallShield etc, can I upload it to this forum? Can I upload a zip file?

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