[Plugin] Perpendicular Face Tools (UPDATED 26-03-09)

frascati · 3 Apr 2011, 17:27

Would anyone kindly help me install this in Linux?

I'm running Linux Mint 10 on an HP 8510W with
Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 Processor (Santa Rosa, 2.2GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
256MB NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M Workstation GPU
15.4” WSXGA

I installed Sketchup 7.0 with Wine installer. It's working quite well for me so far.

I have found this ruby-script instruction on a page dedicated to Sketchup Linux users...

@unknownuser said:

bug 16511, fixed as of wine-1.1.11: To use the Ruby scripts (sketchup.google.com/download/rubyscripts.html) you'll need to convert them from DOS format to Unix format. (e.g. sudo apt-get install tofromdos; dos2unix -f parametric.rb windows.rb)

... but am pretty new to linux and not certain how to proceed.

Chris Fullmer · 3 Apr 2011, 18:35

hmmm, I don't know. I am not a Linux person. Someone around here should be able to help I think thought.

frascati · 3 Apr 2011, 19:10

Hello Chris.

I second every accolade in this thread. What a great tool! I read and read tutorials until I was quite certain not to embarrass myself before asking how to accomplish this. It's such a fundamental need that I was certain that I was overlooking the obvious somewhere. When I was directed to your plugin I was pretty astonished that Sketchup does not do this natively somehow. Thank you VERY much for your work.

I asked some time back about why subsequent versions of Sketchup don't incorporate more of the most useful tools developed by users. I recall that it was said to be a 'good question'. Do you happen to know? It's not as if it would add too significantly to the size of the download.

thomthom · 4 Apr 2011, 07:53

@frascati said:

I asked some time back about why subsequent versions of Sketchup don't incorporate more of the most useful tools developed by users. I recall that it was said to be a 'good question'. Do you happen to know? It's not as if it would add too significantly to the size of the download.

As a user I prefer to be able to choose myself - the plugins I find useful isn't the same as the next person.
As a developer - SketchUp plugins often go through frequent updates, so any bundled plugin would be out of date by the time it ships.

On the other hand - it'd be great if we could have a plugin repository where we could search, install, uninstall plugins from within SketchUp.

frascati · 4 Apr 2011, 17:12

Finally solved this, hope this helps if any other Linux users stop by here. Rather than repeat a lot I'll refer to the thread....
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69740

@unknownuser said:

On the other hand - it'd be great if we could have a plugin repository where we could search, install, uninstall plugins from within SketchUp.

That would be VERY nice.

This is one thing that I'm really pleased with so far with this "fat" (by linux standards) Linux distro called Mint. There is a wealth of such repositories within the installation for navigating and installing with a minimum of fuss many many utilities. Usually when a Linux tool is discovered on the web I just have to open the "package manager" in Mint and type the name of it into search and it's already there. I just click to download and automatically install it and start using it.

This plugin for Sketchup has been the first real baffler for me, but it turned out to be a pretty simple fix after all. I'm finding that that's usually the case with Mint. Half a dozen hard-core linux people will give you daunting command line instructions but eventually someone will come along to tell you that the solution is actually only two clicks away.

gehcha · 22 Aug 2011, 19:55

Just discovered your plugin and it's great! Thank you. I'm having issue with it drawing circles with a radius less than 1". Is a 1" radius the limit on size?

Chris Fullmer · 23 Aug 2011, 06:51

I probably did not make it smart enough to do decimals. And if I did, it probably only accepts a period as a decimal placemark - which is the US standard. So if you are typing 0,5 - you might try 0.5 - and I would recommend trying it with the 0 in front, and also without the 0. I really don't know how smart the script is going to be with that. I can dig into and look at it if you would like.

Chris

thomthom · 23 Aug 2011, 07:06

@chris fullmer said:

I probably did not make it smart enough to do decimals. And if I did, it probably only accepts a period as a decimal placemark - which is the US standard. So if you are typing 0,5 - you might try 0.5 - and I would recommend trying it with the 0 in front, and also without the 0. I really don't know how smart the script is going to be with that. I can dig into and look at it if you would like.

Chris

How are you processing the input. if you use String.to_l then it should make use of the user's locale setting.

Example:
I got comma as decimal separator, model units set to mm;
` "10,5".to_l

0.413385826771654`

jojo9 · 23 Aug 2011, 12:52

Hi Chris,
whats about an 'put objects perpendicular to' option? Lets say, to put the nearest face of a group/component instance on another face, (having two parallel faces)
application: moving a cabinet to a wall

Chris Fullmer · 23 Aug 2011, 14:48

That would be an interesting plugin. I'm not sure it doesn't exist already though. Seems like there might be some script out there for moving like that. I'm not sure what it would be called though.

jojo9 · 23 Aug 2011, 15:21

Indeed, Didier Bur wrote a similar tool: Align2D. But you have to set 8 points to process objects. Best used to position/put objects on unusual angled planes. Another tool of the same author is 'Drop' but it drops only vertically.

A dedicated tool to place/arrange furniture would save a lot of time.
The slide direction could result of the relationship between group-wallface and the bounding box face determine the border line between object-wall. No dialog/input box is needed for this to work.
Another candy to add could be to rotate objects automatically, so that the front face of a cabinet, points always forward of the wall.

gilles · 10 Nov 2011, 10:00

Hello, I tried this tool today.
It works fine but I got issue with circle:
It doesn't draw radius under 25,4mm
If I set radius to 100mm it draw 76,2mm radius
???
Is there a way, code to have a component instead of a group?

Chris Fullmer · 11 Nov 2011, 01:56

Hi Giles, I did a very poor making this plugin international. It does not work well with metrics AND with comma decimal separators. In the US we use a decimal separator. So 23,12 for us is written 23.12 for example.

The 25.4mm limit appears to be a an inch conversion thing. 25.4mm = 1 inch. I really don't remember if I set this up to work with metrics at all. And I'm so busy I will not be able to fix it anytime soon. If you would like to tweak though, feel free.

Chris

gilles · 11 Nov 2011, 09:06

it must be relative to the circle construction method because there is no problem with square.

brookefox · 29 Mar 2012, 20:48

Some helpful tipsters pointed me to this handy tool, Chris, after I inquired about one which would do quite a bit less.

Thank you very much.

TS200010 · 15 Mar 2013, 11:33

Just installed them - however, no icons on the buttons and an almost immediate Bug Splat. Lost all my work.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Dave R · 15 Mar 2013, 12:39

The typical cause for the icons not showing on the buttons is incorrect installation. The Splat could have the same cause.

TS200010 · 16 Mar 2013, 07:59

Dave,
Thanks - I am a RubyNewbe ... there were no installation instructions so I just guessed - apparantly incorrectly.

Box · 16 Mar 2013, 09:28

@ts200010 said:

Just installed them - however, no icons on the buttons and an almost immediate Bug Splat. Lost all my work.

This suggests you installed the plugin while working on a file.
Generally speaking you should install plugins with SU closed, or at the very least close and reopen SU before using the plugin for the first time.
Also worth trying it out on a junk file before anything important.

So having said that, if you did install it with SU open, try installing it again with SU closed.

Dave R · 16 Mar 2013, 12:39

@ts200010 said:

Dave,
Thanks - I am a RubyNewbe ... there were no installation instructions so I just guessed - apparantly incorrectly.

There are multiple threads here explaining how to install plugins. The basic thing which would apply to any ZIP folder is to maintain the file structure as shipped in the compressed folder.

Since the icons don't appear on the toolbar, it is safe to assume that the icon images are not in the colder called clf_perpendicular_face_tools which is where the related loader file would be looking for them. If you didn't keep those image files in that folder, you probably also don't have clf_perpendicular_face_tools.rb in that folder either.

You should explore through the Plugins folder and find the .rb and the six image files and put them where they belong. It would probably be easier to delete those files and reinstall the plugin correctly. I wopuld suggest you download and use 7-zip to do this. It won't destroy the folder structure as the Windows native unzipper is wont to do.