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[Plugin] Hatchfaces (v1.8 beta) UPDATED 15-Dec-2012

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  • J Offline
    jolran
    last edited by 13 Jul 2011, 19:17

    Thanks KYYU πŸ˜„

    And thank you for that explanation. You are most helpful!

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    • S Offline
      sadyo
      last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 03:02

      Thanks Jolran, it's really awesome plugin
      Then... AutoCAD would be far away now

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      • J Offline
        jolran
        last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 04:37

        Hi Atelerpaar!

        I did not think of that until you mentioned it now. Good suggestion πŸ‘ That would be the behaivior one would expect. Also files would get smaller. I will try my best πŸ˜„

        I have an new idea for getting different patterns. 2d DCs with intersection. Don't know if it is possible, have to do some research. But then a library of concrete and such could be made with a webdialog and thumbnails. Needles to say, quite a project..

        Any interest in that? Or are textures already sufficient as they are for that purpose?

        (my personal feeling is that textures get ugly in Layout unless perfectly scaled, Richards masking-method works ok, but is not 100% flexible)

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        • J Offline
          jolran
          last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 08:06

          Been at it all morning. Seems not that easy to erase surrounding edges as I thought.
          Outer edges are most possible, but I suspect you just want the hatched (eg45 deg or so) lines remained? Probably missing something in my code..

          @unknownuser said:

          Takes alot of time at our level, to do even simple stuff.

          Damn right about that 😠 πŸ˜„

          But you are far ahead of me in Ruby-knowledge 😳

          Cheers Sadyo

          I guess this thread is supposed to be about updates and wishes? So won't discuss too much code in here.

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          • T Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 08:41

            Do you mean erase the surround edges to the hatching ?

            To do that you need to examine the hatching group's geometry before your code to finally erase all faces.
            Make an empty array
            edges2go=[]
            then iterate the geometry
            group.entities.each{|e|edges2go << if e.class==Sketchup::Edge and not e.faces[1]}
            i.e. 'edges2go' is now a list of all edges in the hatching group that are on the 'perimeter' - i.e. they have only one face. We will now erase them - this will destroy their faces too so you probably never need to erase the group's faces as there won't be any left!
            group.entities.erase_entities(edges2go)
            All perimeter edges are erased en mass. πŸ˜„
            How are you getting on with the 'holes' issue ❓

            TIG

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            • J Offline
              jolran
              last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 12:17

              He he! I can't make this work. I wish it was as simple for me as it is for you 😳

              @unknownuser said:

              before your code to finally erase all faces.

              By that you mean after the intersection and before the erasing?

              The "hole" issue is putting a hole in my brain.

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              • T Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 12:36

                The two relevant lines in the code
                gents.to_a.each{|e|e.erase! if e.valid? and e.class==Sketchup::Edge and e.faces.length==0} gents.to_a.each{|e|e.erase! if e.valid? and e.class==Sketchup::Face}
                The first line removes any unfaced edges.
                The second removes all faces.
                What you need to do between them is add these lines
                edges2go=[] gents.each{|e|edges2go << if e.class==Sketchup::Edge and not e.faces[1]} gents.erase_entities(edges2go)
                This will remove perimeter edges and thereby all faces anyway... So after a test you should find the original second line to erase all faces is no longer needed...
                πŸ€“

                TIG

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                • J Offline
                  jolran
                  last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 15:25

                  Ver 1.2 zip added at first post.

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                  • J Offline
                    jolran
                    last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 15:57

                    Yeeyy!!! It works now!

                    I had to think a little bit πŸ˜„ Where some typos(I hope I did not destroy anything ❓ )

                    Anyway it works. Will post update soon..

                    gents.to_a.each{|e|e.erase! if e.valid? and e.class==Sketchup;;Edge and e.faces.length==0}
                          edges2go=[]
                          gents.each{|e|edges2go << e if e.class==Sketchup;;Edge and not e.faces[1]}
                          gents.erase_entities(edges2go)
                    

                    Thanks to TIG this plugin gets updated once more πŸ˜„

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                    • S Offline
                      sergey2402
                      last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 15:58

                      Well done! You are doing greatly desired work!
                      I really, really like it.

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                      • J Offline
                        jolran
                        last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 16:23

                        Why thank you 😳 But I really think you should thank TIG and Kyuu.

                        Feel free to ask for ways to improve! Or even come up with ideas πŸ‘

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                        • K Offline
                          ken
                          last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 18:43

                          Well, this is starting to look good. My suggested improvement

                          1. If you do two hatches of the same face, is it possible to get both hatches in the same group.

                          Thank you for your work

                          Ken

                          Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                          • S Offline
                            sergey2402
                            last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 18:58

                            Maybe hatches should be on its own layer?

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                            • J Offline
                              jolran
                              last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 19:15

                              Thank you for your input guys!! Good points!

                              I will answer more profound tomorrow. I'm a bit in a hurry! For Now, here is a minitut or tips, as a compensation that the hole "issue" isent fixed yet. πŸ˜‰


                              Hatchtut2-1.jpg

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                              • S Offline
                                sergey2402
                                last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 19:41

                                TIG, kyyu, please do not leave jolran alone. You are all together make a very necessary work.

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                                • T Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 21:17

                                  We are helping him... [sometimes in the background πŸ˜‰ ] πŸ˜„

                                  TIG

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                                    sergey2402
                                    last edited by 14 Jul 2011, 21:27

                                    @tig said:

                                    We are helping him... [sometimes in the background πŸ˜‰ ] πŸ˜„

                                    πŸ‘

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                                    • J Offline
                                      jolran
                                      last edited by 15 Jul 2011, 07:29

                                      About added features:

                                      To put hatches in a layers(newly created OR selected) is possible, at least create a new layer. I was thinking of adding that anyway.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      If you do two hatches of the same face, is it possible to get both hatches in the same group.

                                      It is a good idea, looking at how the plugin works right now. But it's risky business adding geometry inside groups, and you probably have to select the created hatchgroup before running. Wich in turn will not add that much improvement in workflow?
                                      But if you really, REALLY want that feature... It won't hurt testing..

                                      My personal view is that I should rather investigate the possibilitie to improve the plugin with a "pattern library" instead. No promises can be made in that regard though. It seams difficult.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      TIG, kyyu, please do not leave jolran alone
                                      πŸ˜„

                                      TIG's been helping me a LOT! Through PM's and more, otherwise this plugin would not exist. KYuu fixed the spacing and that was mucho importante.

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                                      • T Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 15 Jul 2011, 07:55

                                        The layer part is easy. Add some code to make/refer to the layer
                                        hatch_layer=model.layers.add("HATCH")
                                        If it doesn't exist it's made...
                                        Then after the group is made use...
                                        group.layer=hatch_layer
                                        Done πŸ˜„

                                        You could add a 'crosshatch' option to the main dialog, because most of the time that's what's wanted anyway - "Crosshatch? " >> "Yes|No" [you'd need to insert a 3rd ['','',["Yes|No"]] in inputbox moving the title over to 4th place] - default would be 'No'. If results[3]=='Yes' you'd repeat the line drawing steps within the same group entities, but at +/-90 degrees, so there would be twice as many edges overlaid etc... πŸ’­

                                        How are the 'holes' going... ❓

                                        TIG

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                                        • J Offline
                                          jolran
                                          last edited by 15 Jul 2011, 08:42

                                          He he! As easy as that, huh? πŸ˜„ Well there you have it guys!

                                          I will work on those things. And put an option of angle on second hatching. That would give you as much flexibility as
                                          needed for linehatching I presume?

                                          The "holes"... Hmm difficult. I have been searching posts about that subject(Don't just want to add anything unless I actually understand what is going on). If I understood it right, holes are somewhat problematic in Sketchup. One have to
                                          use both face.outer_loops AND face_loops to get to the face hole geometry? Where face_loops is innerloop? Or include.all loops? That is a big difference.

                                          In API it says: Face outer_loops retrieves a "face loop object" But what does that mean?
                                          Edges, vertices? Both? Is it an array?

                                          For a newbie like me to interprate the API is quite difficult.
                                          The posts in here are very helpful, but it takes time to search specific posts. There are currently around 146 pages * 25 * (number replies) in just the developper section. πŸ˜„

                                          So with that said, I am very greatful for your help TIG.

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