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    • EarthMoverE Offline
      EarthMover
      last edited by

      I did voice it on the forum a few weeks ago, pointing a link to this vimeo wording, but no response. Technically I did get the update and waterfall technology for free, so I can't bitch too much. I just thought I was dating a full figured woman, but turns out she is an anorexic with a stuffed bra. 👊

      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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      • EarthMoverE Offline
        EarthMover
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        Anyone else experiencing uber slow download speeds for the update? I'm on high speed and normally download around 1.4 MB/sec from a fast host.


        Lumion speed.png

        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          @earthmover said:

          ...I also spent my 1000 "free" credits on a plugin, but got no link to download the plugin. Not sure how they are installed...

          They are included into the main download just not activated until you license them.

          As for an antivirus software, have a look at this topic
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=37391&

          Gai...

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            Plex
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            @ecuadorian said:

            It's official:
            Lumion now comes in "Basic" and "Ultimate" flavors. In your personal area in the forum it says Lumion basic costs 5,000 "credits" and Lumion Ultimate costs 10,000 "credits".

            I'm not a happy camper. I purchased Lumion to deal with presentation I had coming up, in light that I would get instant delivery. This did not happen. Nothing worked and I was busy fiddling with ports and firewalls only to find out this had nothing to do with my setup. Three days later I got message that a server had been fixed (which was down due to power shortage). By then the presentation was over and Lumion touch nowhere present. Then there is the dongle. It took over a week to get to me. The dongle arrived LAST NIGHT (8th June). I then installed Lumion on my laptop happy to be able to take the show on the road (my understanding of using dongle). TODAY there is a brand new world. New licensing scheme and addons that cost even more money. I was never informed this would happen and Lumion crew can not assume that everyone follows forums not directly related to their company. I would never have bought Lumion "as is" but was counting on the updates.
            This is not acceptable in my opinion 😡

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            • jason_marantoJ Offline
              jason_maranto
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              This is always the way these things go -- digital delivery is faster than CD/DVD but usually you are better off to wait a day or two after "release" to download... save yourself the aggravation and avoid the bottleneck.

              Best,
              Jason.

              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                I guess about 20% of the users are active forum members and these people are now all downloading. When the rush is over and especially during the coming, long week-end we can expect much faster downloads.

                Gai...

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I remember how we all gasped at the price of TwinMotion2 when it launched via the 'renderingkiller' site. Now it seems it's pretty much on par with Lumion price wise.

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                  (www.twinmotion.com)

                  I'd like to see these in a face-off on the same scene. It'd make for a really interesting competition.

                  Sorry for the slightly off-topic post but hearing the price hike made me hunt down TwinMotion to see what development road it took.

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    I too would like to see that, I'd even be interested in doing it, but alas at those prices I'll wait for some rich bastard to do it for me. 😉

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                    • jason_marantoJ Offline
                      jason_maranto
                      last edited by

                      I think there is no question TwinMotion would beat Lumion pretty easily for most things... for the previous price difference that seemed reasonable -- less so now.

                      Best,
                      Jason.

                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by

                        At least for Sketchup users, Lumion just did E-on a big favor as anyone on the fence will certainly go LumenRT over Lumion at this point.

                        I guess I'll just consider the $1300 already shelled out as a downpayment and figure on paying for the rest of the needed content in installments. 😕 I suppose I'll just by plugins on an as needed basis and only if I can sell a project that requires it. There's no other option really.

                        In spite of the bitching, I'm still pretty psyched about the potential of the program and can't wait to re-render some projects with waterfalls and fire effects. Hopefully the road ahead stabilizes and we don't end up with 50 or more plugins for all aspects of future development. At this point I'm also wondering what Lumion 2 will bring in terms of upgrade fees, plugins, etc.

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                          Plex
                          last edited by

                          @earthmover said:

                          At least for Sketchup users, Lumion just did E-on a big favor as anyone on the fence will certainly go LumenRT over Lumion at this point.

                          Well LumenRT is totally different beast. Very promising for what it is meant for but hardly in competition with Lumion.

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            @earthmover said:

                            ...I suppose I'll just by plugins on an as needed basis and only if I can sell a project that requires it. There's no other option really...

                            It seems that it is not even a bad idea and you need not decide nowto (pre)purchase the ultimate edition with all futureplugins included but as you go and purchase, your purchases will be deducted from the final price of ultimate meaning once you reach the 5th plugin, you are practically an ultimate license holder and will not have to pay for the rest. See Morten's explanation about the whole future licensing and plugin package policy here:
                            http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=1219.msg7365#msg7365

                            Gai...

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                            • EarthMoverE Offline
                              EarthMover
                              last edited by

                              @plex said:

                              Well LumenRT is totally different beast. Very promising for what it is meant for but hardly in competition with Lumion.

                              No? As far as professional sketchup users go, it's all about what options there are to best present and sell your projects and keep your clients as happy as possible. Clients don't know what softwares cost and what kind of light calculations a program performs...they want to sell their products, regardless. In that respect, when it comes to animations easily produced out of sketchup, all options are indeed competition. Committing a piece software to your workflow is based on bang for the buck and what will keep the clients most happy. If I can get a comparable finished product out of LumenRT and Lumion, but there is a difference in cost, business model and customer service, I would have to weigh out both against the big picture. With the revelation that one of the softwares has doubled it's price midway through their first release, if I were on the fence, I would be very weary about entering a working relationship with that company. In that respect, they are making the less expensive options (LumenRT, Lightup, etc. ) seem more appealing in the long run.

                              I also remember Miguel doing a recent client animation that was half done in Lumion and half done in LightUP. I'm sure the client had no idea that there were two different programs used, as the results looked very similar.

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                              • E Offline
                                Ecuadorian
                                last edited by

                                How's the download speed today? I'm waiting for the dust to settle and for them to fix the unavoidable kinks that come with a new update.

                                -Miguel Lescano
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                                • soloS Offline
                                  solo
                                  last edited by

                                  Took me 1h 20sec.

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    -30 minutes...

                                    Gai...

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                                    • P Offline
                                      Plex
                                      last edited by

                                      @earthmover said:

                                      @plex said:

                                      Well LumenRT is totally different beast. Very promising for what it is meant for but hardly in competition with Lumion.

                                      No? As far as professional sketchup users go, it's all about what options there are to best present and sell your projects and keep your clients as happy as possible.

                                      Yep!
                                      When you put it like this, I couldn´t agree more.

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                                      • E Offline
                                        Ecuadorian
                                        last edited by

                                        Is there any "must have" content in the new plugins?

                                        So far, what I know is:
                                        New plants: Mainly for Europe
                                        People: Seriously... Silhouettes?
                                        Movie effects: Look fun to use once or twice.
                                        New water: Now this is something worth having, but oddly, the new water is split between the FX pack and the Environment pack.

                                        -Miguel Lescano
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                                        • EarthMoverE Offline
                                          EarthMover
                                          last edited by

                                          @ecuadorian said:

                                          New water: Now this is something worth having, but oddly, the new water is split between the FX pack and the Environment pack.

                                          Per the wording on the site -

                                          "Special effects plug-in

                                          With this package you can add special effects such as water, fire, smoke and fog to your scenes.
                                          Environments and weather plug-in

                                          Currently this package contains an awesome ocean feature for weather mode. This plug-in is essential if you need to create scenes featuring the ocean or shorelines."

                                          Because of this wording I opted for the Special Effects pack, only to then find out that the waterfall shader is not included, but it's in the Environment and Weather pack. 😞 Sheeesh.

                                          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                          Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                          • E Offline
                                            Ecuadorian
                                            last edited by

                                            The gap between L*mion and Twinmotion 2 has closed a lot, don't you think? Back in December, we had:

                                            Twinmotion 2: $3,000 + $800 for 12 months of updates = $3,800 total cost in first year of usage
                                            L*mion: $1,100, still no info on the price of upgrades, still no word about the current plugin system

                                            Now we have:

                                            Twinmotion 2: $3,000 + $800 for 12 months of updates = Still $3,800 total cost in first year of usage
                                            L*mion Ultimate: $2,200 + $733 upgrade price when V.2 comes out: Now $2,933 total cost in less than one year of usage

                                            (Prices slightly rounded)

                                            Anyone here using Twinmotion?

                                            -Miguel Lescano
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