sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    L*mion now split up in "Basic" and "Ultimate" flavors

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Extensions & Applications Discussions
    extensions
    37 Posts 9 Posters 4.2k Views 9 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Phew! this could get expensive.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • E Offline
        Ecuadorian
        last edited by

        I'm first trying to cool down after seeing that each package will cost around $220. I'm currently mad. 😡

        BTW, I see there's still no "buy" link for Lumion Ultimate. Maybe I can wait for it so I can be sure I really have the "Ultimate" license and not just the "Basic" one with a couple of plugins. This way, if they decide to release more plugins and add them to the Ultimate package, I should get those for free. Unless they decide to split Lumion into Basic, Ultimate and Über versions.

        -Miguel Lescano
        Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • jason_marantoJ Offline
          jason_maranto
          last edited by

          What is the upgrade policy on the plugins? For instance the "Environment and weather" package looks interesting but if you have to pay full price each time they release an update to those then it could get to be a very expensive package indeed.

          Best,
          Jason.

          I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            BTW, I see there's still no "buy" link for Lumion Ultimate. Maybe I can wait for it so I can be sure I really have the "Ultimate" license and not just the "Basic" one with a couple of plugins. This way, if they decide to release more plugins and add them to the Ultimate package, I should get those for free. Unless they decide to split Lumion into Basic, Ultimate and Über versions.

            So you are buying the Ultimate version? (in theory you buying Lumion again as it's twice the price) and you get all the plugins for free with Ultimate right? and SP3 you will need to upgrade again I assume as there will be new plugins...or are future plugins all free with Ultimate?

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              @solo said:

              are future plugins all free with Ultimate? ...or are future plugins all free with Ultimate?

              Yes, they are.

              Gai...

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • E Offline
                Ecuadorian
                last edited by

                What Lumion really needs for the next version is DirectX 11 support. This way supersampling can be done on a hardware level and rendering movies will be way faster. I had to heavily optimize the rendering of the Samanes Park video as it was taking 11 seconds per frame @720p with no overscan...

                At this point I think I'll just sit and watch how the discussion develops both here and in the official forum before making any purchase... I want an official, signed document stating that all future additions to the plugins will be free for those with an Ultimate license. And I also want to know what the roadmap is for future upgrades, along with the prices of those upgrades.

                -Miguel Lescano
                Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • jason_marantoJ Offline
                  jason_maranto
                  last edited by

                  That sounds like a wise strategy -- being an early adopter is rarely a good idea.

                  Best,
                  Jason.

                  I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
                    last edited by

                    Reminds me of E-on's strategy, basic Vue with added modules or Infinite with everything included.

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • E Offline
                      Ecuadorian
                      last edited by

                      With the difference that Vue Infinite is $995, while Lumion Ultimate is $2,200. 😡

                      At the very least I hope they're tightening up the security so no one running a pirated copy competes with paying customers.

                      -Miguel Lescano
                      Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by

                        I opted for the Water/Fire/Smoke plugin. Now I have to buy an antivirus software and about 100' of ethernet cable to get my studio rig online to activate the update. I also spent my 1000 "free" credits on a plugin, but got no link to download the plugin. Not sure how they are installed.

                        What pisses me off tremendously is the false advertising regarding the update. All the users were under the assumption that all this new technology they have been previewing were included FREE OF CHARGE to existing Lumion 1.0 customers. So they baited people into buying the software in expectation of the new update, then switched up the whole sales strategy at the last minute. For example, here is a screen shot of thier Vimeo preview of the waterfall technology. Notice the wording in the description....


                        Lumion False Advertising.png

                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                        Content Creator at Skapeup

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Yeah, I noticed that also, very curious turn of events, tried posting this on their forum?, I'd like to hear their response actually.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            I did voice it on the forum a few weeks ago, pointing a link to this vimeo wording, but no response. Technically I did get the update and waterfall technology for free, so I can't bitch too much. I just thought I was dating a full figured woman, but turns out she is an anorexic with a stuffed bra. 👊

                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                            Content Creator at Skapeup

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • EarthMoverE Offline
                              EarthMover
                              last edited by

                              Anyone else experiencing uber slow download speeds for the update? I'm on high speed and normally download around 1.4 MB/sec from a fast host.


                              Lumion speed.png

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                              Content Creator at Skapeup

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                @earthmover said:

                                ...I also spent my 1000 "free" credits on a plugin, but got no link to download the plugin. Not sure how they are installed...

                                They are included into the main download just not activated until you license them.

                                As for an antivirus software, have a look at this topic
                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=37391&

                                Gai...

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • P Offline
                                  Plex
                                  last edited by

                                  @ecuadorian said:

                                  It's official:
                                  Lumion now comes in "Basic" and "Ultimate" flavors. In your personal area in the forum it says Lumion basic costs 5,000 "credits" and Lumion Ultimate costs 10,000 "credits".

                                  I'm not a happy camper. I purchased Lumion to deal with presentation I had coming up, in light that I would get instant delivery. This did not happen. Nothing worked and I was busy fiddling with ports and firewalls only to find out this had nothing to do with my setup. Three days later I got message that a server had been fixed (which was down due to power shortage). By then the presentation was over and Lumion touch nowhere present. Then there is the dongle. It took over a week to get to me. The dongle arrived LAST NIGHT (8th June). I then installed Lumion on my laptop happy to be able to take the show on the road (my understanding of using dongle). TODAY there is a brand new world. New licensing scheme and addons that cost even more money. I was never informed this would happen and Lumion crew can not assume that everyone follows forums not directly related to their company. I would never have bought Lumion "as is" but was counting on the updates.
                                  This is not acceptable in my opinion 😡

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                    jason_maranto
                                    last edited by

                                    This is always the way these things go -- digital delivery is faster than CD/DVD but usually you are better off to wait a day or two after "release" to download... save yourself the aggravation and avoid the bottleneck.

                                    Best,
                                    Jason.

                                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      I guess about 20% of the users are active forum members and these people are now all downloading. When the rush is over and especially during the coming, long week-end we can expect much faster downloads.

                                      Gai...

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        I remember how we all gasped at the price of TwinMotion2 when it launched via the 'renderingkiller' site. Now it seems it's pretty much on par with Lumion price wise.

                                        Link Preview Image

                                        favicon

                                        (www.twinmotion.com)

                                        I'd like to see these in a face-off on the same scene. It'd make for a really interesting competition.

                                        Sorry for the slightly off-topic post but hearing the price hike made me hunt down TwinMotion to see what development road it took.

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          I too would like to see that, I'd even be interested in doing it, but alas at those prices I'll wait for some rich bastard to do it for me. 😉

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                            jason_maranto
                                            last edited by

                                            I think there is no question TwinMotion would beat Lumion pretty easily for most things... for the previous price difference that seemed reasonable -- less so now.

                                            Best,
                                            Jason.

                                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 1 / 2
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement