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    jamalito
    last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 12:33

    HI GUYS
    FIRST HAPPY NEW YEAR
    i WATCHED IN FACEBOOK A PHOTO TO RENDER POOL AND I LIKED TO Reflection IT IS REAL I TIRED TO DID LIKE IT BUT I FAILED
    THIS RENDER I WATCHED IT IN FACEBOOK

    http://l12.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc6/hs036.snc6/166614_1753859281347_1084860961_32012936_502459_n.jpg

    HOW I CAN MAKE RENDER LIKE THIS PIC ?
    AND WHAT IS SETTING TO WATER MATERIALS
    IF I HAVE VRAY V.1.48 AND SKETCH UP V.8
    OS V. WIN7

    Albert Einstein:
    ((I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.))

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      thomthom
      last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 17:17

      Please, when postings - do not use all caps. It's bad forum manners - seems like you are shouting. If you do not care about capitalisation, then at least use lower caps.

      For water materials I just use a 100% diffuse layers and a reflection layer with a Fresnel map. To get the ripples you add a bump map.

      If you post a picture of what you have, that would help to give more specific tips.

      Remember that lighting and the environment reflected in the reflection will affect how realistic the water looks.

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        thomthom
        last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 20:29

        @kalu:

        The color: reduce the Color Multiplier for the fog to reduce the density of the colour.
        FogMp.png

        Texture: Just search for "water bumpmap" and you'll find loads.

        Your test model: you only have the water material in your scene - everything else is pure white. Add some materials to the other geometry in your model, that way it'll look better - your reflection will pick that up. Also, avoid using pure white as it can throw off V-Ray's calculations some times.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          kalu
          last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 20:31

          You are awesome, I will post my results and maybe a tutorial for all if I have time.

          Thanks.

          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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            kalu
            last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 20:44

            I what part I can ad the bump map to create the ripples effect? I found a map that I can use but i am a little lost..

            THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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              thomthom
              last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 20:52

              Found an old test scene on my hard-drive.

              waterscene.jpg

              Note that the way I mapped the bumpmap in this model is not how I'd recommend it to people who are new to VfSU. I'd instead use a dummy texture in the diffuse. (which won't be visible any way because you make it fully transparent anyway.) then you can easily control the UV mapping by using SketchUp's texture tools.


              Water Bump Map


              WaterTestScene.skp

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                jamalito
                last edited by 1 Jan 2011, 20:54

                @thomthom said:

                Please, when postings - do not use all caps. It's bad forum manners - seems like you are shouting. If you do not care about capitalisation, then at least use lower caps.

                For water materials I just use a 100% diffuse layers and a reflection layer with a Fresnel map. To get the ripples you add a bump map.

                If you post a picture of what you have, that would help to give more specific tips.
                Remember that lighting and the environment reflected in the reflection will affect how realistic the water looks.

                Iam sorry πŸ˜’ Mr thom but I like this render it is not posting to them but I want to say how I can to did it
                thnx to to your advice I will make my render and give me your advice

                Albert Einstein:
                ((I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.))

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                  kalu
                  last edited by 2 Jan 2011, 02:59

                  Hello:

                  I try the settings that I read in the web in some tutorial but I have no luck what so ever in the final render. I learn Caustic now but I want the same results as the render final I will ad later caustic. I just want to see the same bumps that I missing. Also the color is not right for some reason. VR 1.48.89 Sketchup 8 Pro, Windows 7 - 64.

                  I post the model and some samples for help.

                  Water render final (I try to get this effect)

                  http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/water.jpg

                  I have this render

                  http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/waterrender.jpg

                  How I can ad bump map for ripples where I can find a map for ripples?

                  I hope you can help me with the settings Thomthom...Thanks.

                  THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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                    kalu
                    last edited by 2 Jan 2011, 07:36

                    Got it...After 6 hours of learn caustic and try make this water render...

                    http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/test-03.jpg

                    THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 2 Jan 2011, 11:27

                      @kalu said:

                      Got it...After 6 hours of learn caustic and try make this water render...

                      Ah, you wanted caustics. Did you do that with just the V-Ray sun? OR did you use a different light source?

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        kalu
                        last edited by 2 Jan 2011, 20:19

                        I use Vray sun, It take me 6 hours to learn the caustic and put so many options that I am proud of the results. After I make the same results that I wanted and the begin of my question, I move in to the caustic so I can more realistic view of the pool. Now I can do the pool and the sea...Great work, but allot of learn...

                        Thank you ThomThom for always great help!. πŸ‘

                        THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 2 Jan 2011, 23:49

                          @kalu said:

                          I use Vray sun, It take me 6 hours to learn the caustic and put so many options that I am proud of the results. After I make the same results that I wanted and the begin of my question, I move in to the caustic so I can more realistic view of the pool. Now I can do the pool and the sea...Great work, but allot of learn...

                          Thank you ThomThom for always great help!. πŸ‘

                          I think you did most of it - I've never really used Caustics much. I'd probably have to ask you about it.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            nightwishzm
                            last edited by 4 Jan 2011, 10:52

                            mr kalu
                            can you explain us pls how did you get that result ? πŸ˜„, maybe screens of parameters ?^^

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                              kalu
                              last edited by 5 Jan 2011, 05:03

                              I am out of the country for vacation, I will post a result after I back in a month.

                              THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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                                Hayduke
                                last edited by 16 May 2011, 04:54

                                Still waiting for the follow up post:-\

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                                  06100143
                                  last edited by 16 May 2011, 08:44

                                  try this tutorial...
                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHdi5bEdlI

                                  hope this would help you.

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                                    Hayduke
                                    last edited by 1 Jun 2011, 17:37

                                    @06100143 said:

                                    try this tutorial...
                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHdi5bEdlI

                                    hope this would help you.

                                    yeh - that's great - found it after looking for a while. Think i dled the model from the ASGVIS site to follow along but that went down:( wonder if Chaos Group is going to fix the forum and all the materials and tutorial links 😞 would have dled a lot more had i known:(

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