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      Pierreden
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      @thomthom said:

      Have you taken into account the transformation of the group? If you pick a point on a face inside a group you get a point for the current context, and then you need to apply the transformation for the group(s) which the face is within.

      No I haven't. If i make a single face and grows an ivy on it, without grouping the face first, there's no problem at all. But if i group the face before growing an ivy on it, adhesion doesn't work, a consequence of classify_point not returning 1. Unless a transformation is applied to a group by the very act of grouping, transformations itself cant explain this behaviour.

      Can it be that Sketchup interprets this situation as if the point not being on the face itself, but "on" the group? ❓

      @thomthom said:

      I'm not sure if Selection Toys does it 100% correct. I can have a look in the code and compare against Vertex Tools (which I have tested on Windows and OSX).

      PM πŸ‘

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        @pierreden said:

        No I haven't. If i make a single face and grows an ivy on it, without grouping the face first, there's no problem at all. But if i group the face before growing an ivy on it, adhesion doesn't work, a consequence of classify_point not returning 1. Unless a transformation is applied to a group by the very act of grouping, transformations itself cant explain this behaviour.

        I couldn't find classify_point anywhere in the code... not in the current version?

        How do you obtain the point you test against classify_point, an InputPoint?

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          Pierreden
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          @pierreden said:

          No I haven't. If i make a single face and grows an ivy on it, without grouping the face first, there's no problem at all. But if i group the face before growing an ivy on it, adhesion doesn't work, a consequence of classify_point not returning 1. Unless a transformation is applied to a group by the very act of grouping, transformations itself cant explain this behaviour.

          I couldn't find classify_point anywhere in the code... not in the current version?

          How do you obtain the point you test against classify_point, an InputPoint?

          Look in livevector_core.rb. line 187.

          classify_point is used to find the closest face to a new node on a branch, so the points tested against classify_point is the last point on each branch.

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            When you test your point against a face nested inside groups/faces you must trasnform that point to the co-ordinates of the face's containing face.

            So if you have a face nested inside a Group1 > ComponentInstance1 > Face, then you must add up the transformation of Group1 and ComponentInstance1 and apply that to the point to send to face.classify point.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              Pierreden
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              When you test your point against a face nested inside groups/faces you must trasnform that point to the co-ordinates of the face's containing face.

              So if you have a face nested inside a Group1 > ComponentInstance1 > Face, then you must add up the transformation of Group1 and ComponentInstance1 and apply that to the point to send to face.classify point.

              Thank you, get it! But i dont understand what transformations are applied to a new group (aka what happens when you group entities)?

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                When you group, or make a component, out of existing entities they get their own local co-ordinates within the new group/component. (Within the ComponentDefinition)
                The group/component is inserted at the bottom front left corner of the boundingbox of the selected entities. To the grouped entities, this point becomes [0,0,0].
                (Though, when you add a group via Ruby API I think the group's origin is set to the current context's origin.)

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  EarthMover
                  last edited by

                  Here is an English Ivy leaf that works well.


                  Ivy_DIFFUSE.png

                  3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                  Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                  Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  • leedeeteeL Offline
                    leedeetee
                    last edited by

                    This is probably a ridiculously stupied question but how do I get the ivy leafs to actually show up?! What am I doing wrong?!

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                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                      EarthMover
                      last edited by

                      CTRL click to bring up the red "+" symbols to indicate where the leaves will go and then SHIFT click to apply and create the leaves.

                      Instructions are in the last section of the User Interface.

                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                        nomeradona
                        last edited by

                        i dont knoe why i have this

                        Error Loading File LiveIvy.rb
                        Can't insert empty component.

                        visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                        • srxS Offline
                          srx
                          last edited by

                          nomeradona
                          go to textures folder and convert skp files to version 7. That worked for me...

                          www.saurus.rs

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                            robert111
                            last edited by

                            i need help with ivy
                            why my ivy ( picture 01) is not same as this good ivy ( picture 02)


                            render01.jpg


                            SU Ivy Wisteria.jpg

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                              nomeradona
                              last edited by

                              thanks srx. good point. iam actually using su7

                              visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                rombout
                                last edited by

                                @srx said:

                                When I start SU it begins with this:
                                Error Loading File LiveIvy.rb
                                Can't insert empty component.

                                This is solved with replacing version 8 leaf components with version 7 in Textures folder...
                                but still not working:

                                Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method -' for nil:NilClass> C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:241:in birth_stem'
                                C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:234:in each' C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:234:in birth_stem'
                                C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:223:in birth' C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:99:in onLButtonDown'
                                C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb:234

                                me to only version 5.04 worked a bit untill the shift click part
                                i got this in SU 6

                                Error; #<ArgumentError; wrong number of arguments (2 for 1)>
                                /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 6/SketchUp/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;233;in `start_operation'
                                /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 6/SketchUp/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;233;in `birth_stem'
                                /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 6/SketchUp/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;223;in `birth'
                                /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 6/SketchUp/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;98;in `onLButtonDown'
                                /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 6/SketchUp/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;233
                                
                                
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                                  rabba89
                                  last edited by

                                  I try to install the last two version but i still have the same problem.
                                  This message appears when i open sketchup: Error Loading File LiveIvy.rb Can't insert empty component.
                                  Than i'm able to use correctly the plug-in untill the last step.
                                  If i hold click+shift nothing happens. It the same when i only click (generate ivy)

                                  Can you help me?
                                  thanks a lot. Very good work, great idea πŸ˜‰

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                                    sadyo
                                    last edited by

                                    Shift+Click still not work on My SketchupIvy.0.6.3.beta 😒
                                    is there something i should do beside waiting for the next release?

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                                      nomeradona
                                      last edited by

                                      @rabba89 said:

                                      I try to install the last two version but i still have the same problem.
                                      This message appears when i open sketchup: Error Loading File LiveIvy.rb Can't insert empty component.
                                      Than i'm able to use correctly the plug-in untill the last step.
                                      If i hold click+shift nothing happens. It the same when i only click (generate ivy)

                                      Can you help me?
                                      thanks a lot. Very good work, great idea πŸ˜‰

                                      rabba the components inside the texture pluggin two of them were done in sketchup 8. download the su8 free and resaved the file to su7 or su 6 depends on what version you are using,

                                      visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                        majid
                                        last edited by

                                        just to say a thousand thanx to you Pierre πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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                                        • jamalitoJ Offline
                                          jamalito
                                          last edited by

                                          hi guyz
                                          how is it do this plugin ?
                                          I downloaded it but can not use it πŸ˜•

                                          Albert Einstein:
                                          ((I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.))

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                                            tomot
                                            last edited by

                                            There are a number of hiccups in each new Ruby that need to be sorted out. I'm sure that will happen. With many thanks to Pierreden for taking on this task. πŸŽ‰

                                            I have only 2 plugins currently installed, Vray demo, and Ivy under SU8. I also resaved the 3 ivyleaf_x.skp file to my SU8 version.

                                            v.0.5.4 : only produces one statement in the Ruby Console after it installs the Ivy leaves.

                                            quietly_force_sync_mats_cb just called
                                            

                                            but otherwise works flawlessly.

                                            v.0.6.2.beta : after 2 clicks, the following is noted in the Ruby Console.

                                            (eval);1; warning; Float 0.05 out of range
                                            Error; #<TypeError; nil can't be coerced into Fixnum>
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;20;in `-'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;20;in `initialize'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;49;in `new'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;49;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;38;in `each'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;38;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;203;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;202;in `each'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;202;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;201;in `times'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;201;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;96;in `onLButtonDown'
                                            

                                            crashed!

                                            v.0.6.3.beta : after 2 clicks, the following is noted in the Ruby Console.

                                            (eval);1; warning; Float 0.05 out of range
                                            Error; #<TypeError; nil can't be coerced into Fixnum>
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;20;in `-'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;20;in `initialize'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;49;in `new'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;49;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;38;in `each'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_branch.rb;38;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;204;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;203;in `each'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;203;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;202;in `times'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;202;in `grow_stem'
                                            C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/LiveIvy/LiveIvy_tool.rb;90;in `onLButtonUp'
                                            
                                            

                                            crashed!

                                            cheers

                                            [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                                            tomot

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