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    • J Offline
      Jsketch
      last edited by

      I'm try to create a rugby ball(same basic shape as an american football) in sketchup, I can make the basic egg shape no problem, but am having trouble making panels. I don't just want a perfect rounded shape, as there are indentations where the seams are and that's what I'm trying to recreate.

      My idea was to create 1/4 of the ball, bevel the edges and copy it and put them together. trouble is I don't know how, or if you're to bevel the edges on a curved surface like that. Any ideas or tips/?

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      • soloS Offline
        solo
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        John,

        Can you post what you have already? that will make it easier to help.

        BTW, welcome to SCF.

        http://www.solos-art.com

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        • J Offline
          Jsketch
          last edited by

          here's what I got so far.


          Picture 1.png

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            This is what you want right? (excuse ralph lauren ball, but it was first image I found that looks like what you need).

            The indentations are the 'ribs'?

            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A2sH6UV9KQ8/SLXvNTdTQbI/AAAAAAAAAlY/jb4543mj8fc/s400/rugby+striped+mini+rugby+ball.jpg

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            • J Offline
              Jsketch
              last edited by

              yes exactly


              Picture 2.png

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                Can you post your model?

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                • J Offline
                  Jsketch
                  last edited by

                  do you mean the sketch up file, or what I'm trying to model it after? I'll attach the .skp file anyway


                  rugby ball.skp

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
                    last edited by

                    Here is a start.


                    rugby%20ball[1].skp

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                    • StilTegS Offline
                      StilTeg
                      last edited by

                      I had an idea without plug-ins but my SU just crashed, I'll have to give it another try

                      doing technical engineering on SketchUp ... without plugins

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                      • J Offline
                        Jsketch
                        last edited by

                        thanks solo, how did u get everything so smooth?

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          a plugin called Artisan. (put in search)

                          Hope you succeed.

                          (off to bed almost 3am here)

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                          • J Offline
                            Jsketch
                            last edited by

                            I'm sure ill get there, thanks for the help

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                            • Alan FraserA Offline
                              Alan Fraser
                              last edited by

                              Surprisingly tricky for something so simple. You can probably do some of this with Rubies, but I couldn't be bothered trying to work out which ones...so I just did it by hand.


                              rugby ball.skp


                              rugbyball_thumb.jpg

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                              • Alan FraserA Offline
                                Alan Fraser
                                last edited by

                                Of course, the easy way would be to just lathe the basic shape, then apply a texture, using the spherical map setting in the UV Tools ruby.


                                rugby ball.skp


                                rugbyball_thumb.jpg

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                                • B Offline
                                  bjornkn
                                  last edited by

                                  A simple way to make a rugby ball would be to lathe the profile/curve a quarter circle.
                                  Then extrude each end/inside face a few mms.
                                  Then scale that face towards the center, once top/bottom and once outside towards center - about .98?
                                  Then you make it a component and rotate/copy 3 copies.
                                  A little tweaking and smoothing and you're done 😄

                                  Another way would be to use Joint Push Pull tool.
                                  Curviloft, Artisan, Amorph are all plugins that could be used here.

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                                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                    honoluludesktop
                                    last edited by

                                    @alan fraser said:

                                    Surprisingly tricky for something so simple. You can probably do some of this with Rubies, but I couldn't be bothered trying to work out which ones...so I just did it by hand.

                                    OK, just how did you do the crease without a plugin?

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                                    • StilTegS Offline
                                      StilTeg
                                      last edited by

                                      Without PlugIn, I created the quarter sphere, Made it longer in one direction, then resized just the 2 flat faces remaining (leaving the corner untouched) and copied it 3 times around that corner ...
                                      Exagerated, this is one result


                                      FootBall.skp

                                      doing technical engineering on SketchUp ... without plugins

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                                      • Alan FraserA Offline
                                        Alan Fraser
                                        last edited by

                                        hd, I routinely leave creases in all my people and other organic stuff...mostly to delineate muscle groups, facial features, knuckles etc.
                                        The football was easier as it's a more regular shape. I used the smoothing slider just enough to smooth the panels, but not enough to smooth the seams. Then I turned off hidden geometry and rectangular selected the whole thing (as opposed to triple-clicking it). This selected all the smoothed faces as a single surface, plus all the yet unsmoothed seam lines. I then used the smooth dialog again...but with both boxes unchecked...turning it up until all the seam lines disappeared.
                                        They disappear but don't smooth (because the normals box is unchecked)...hence a crease. 😄

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                                        • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                          honoluludesktop
                                          last edited by

                                          Al, OK, still not that easy to do (for me), but I understand it. Thanks.

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                                          • arail1A Offline
                                            arail1
                                            last edited by

                                            I do wish the workflow between SketchUp and modo was a bit more fluid. Deformations like this are a one button task in modo.


                                            football.jpg

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